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drsevarius ([info]drsevarius) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-04-15 23:35:00

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Entry tags:char: black canary/dinah lance, char: green arrow/oliver queen, title: green arrow/black canary

Green Arrow/Black Canary #19
Remember last time we saw Dinah and Ollie, he tased her?



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[info]bluefall
2009-04-15 10:55 pm UTC (link)
Not that he actually apologizes, mind.

This does defray the argument that it's okay for her to whack him in JLA somewhat, though. The balance is probably off in her favor again, depending on how we count the severity of each incident (Ollie never suffers unconsciousness, frex).

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[info]bluefall
2009-04-15 11:00 pm UTC (link)
Also, interesting that she's pissed off he tazed her, but makes no mention of the reason he tazed her. She doesn't seem upset that he cut her out of the op and treated her like an infant who can't make her own decisions or be part of his, and in the conversation in bed later her distrust takes the form of "I don't like seeing some hot girl try to get in your pants." She really does not care at all that he doesn't respect her rights or autonomy - she just wants him to do it the sneaky Sin way and not the brute force way.

Tell me again why I'm supposed to like them as a couple?

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[info]bariman1987
2009-04-15 11:10 pm UTC (link)
Tell me again why I'm supposed to like them as a couple?

Because they were together in the Silver Age, and the Silver Age was the best thing in comics history! All this new stuff that isn't an attempt to recapture that Glorious Era is crap.

God, I need some cookies.

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[info]saralakali
2009-04-16 07:24 pm UTC (link)
To be fair though, the attempts could be infinitely better. There's nothing wrong with using ideas from a title's or character's history. there is something very wrong with assuming that just because you're paying homage to the past, that it makes up for bad storytelling.

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[info]seriousfic
2009-04-16 01:27 am UTC (link)
Dinah's just spoiled from having Barbara as a commander. The difference is that Barbara has Issues (that she overcame/is overcoming), while Ollie has Jerkass that occasionally puts on a fake nose and glasses.

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[info]bluefall
2009-04-16 01:02 pm UTC (link)
Well, that and Babs actually does good when she does the whole "I'm in charge here and your desires are not relevant" thing (Ra's, Helena, Ted's heart condition, even the firing was a net positive), while Ollie's unilateralism inevitably fucks up (here, it's him almost getting himself killed and creating a situation where Cupid can escape, but at least he didn't commit any felonies or break up any families this time).

Also, Dinah seems more willing to call out Babs when she crosses the line, and to do so more productively, than she does Ollie. With the firing, again, she put a lot of effort into showing Babs she was wrong, and got an apology and better treatment out of it. When Babs was like "don't marry Ollie come back to me," Dinah told her off and then brought her around with the "I get it, really, but be my maid of honor anyway" thing. When Ollie misbehaves, though, she either punches him or marries him. It's not really as good a system.

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[info]seriousfic
2009-04-16 01:08 pm UTC (link)
And as long as we're on the subject, Barbara is way hotter than Ollie.

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(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-04-16 05:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seriousfic, 2009-04-16 05:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-04-16 06:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seriousfic, 2009-04-16 07:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-04-16 09:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seriousfic, 2009-04-16 09:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-04-16 10:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seriousfic, 2009-04-16 11:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jarodrussell, 2009-04-17 11:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seriousfic, 2009-04-16 07:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistermagpie, 2009-04-16 07:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-04-16 09:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seriousfic, 2009-04-16 09:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-04-16 11:16 pm UTC
Yours is the superior porn-icon - [info]seriousfic, 2009-04-16 11:52 pm UTC
i only wish the source material were as hot as it is fun. - [info]bluefall, 2009-04-17 12:23 am UTC
Re: i only wish the source material were as hot as it is fun. - [info]seriousfic, 2009-04-17 12:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-04-17 10:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seriousfic, 2009-04-17 10:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-04-17 11:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seriousfic, 2009-04-17 12:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-04-17 12:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seriousfic, 2009-04-17 01:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-04-17 03:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seriousfic, 2009-04-17 03:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]scottyquick, 2009-04-18 01:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistermagpie, 2009-04-16 10:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-04-16 10:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistermagpie, 2009-04-16 11:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jarodrussell, 2009-04-17 11:25 am UTC

[info]jlbarnett
2009-04-16 06:13 pm UTC (link)
that's cause if Babs succeeds when she crosses the line she needs a reminder that she crossed a line to keep from getting a swelled head.

Plus I think this is one of those cases where it's a self-awareness thing. I really think Ollie knows when he's an ass.

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[info]magus_69
2009-04-16 01:45 am UTC (link)
I don't know.

I have this vision of what they could be, what they should be, and it's awesome. They should be like Barda and Miracle, or Reed and Sue when written well, but they never fucking are, and I don't know why, and it's really pissing me off. Neither character is being done any favours.

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[info]kingrockwell
2009-04-16 12:17 pm UTC (link)
Don't blame poor writing on the characters :(
I don't do fanon a lot, but seriously, this series doesn't exist. Aren't posts in this comm supposed to have scans or something? Man, I can't believe the OP screwed that one up.

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[info]noahbrand
2009-04-22 11:26 pm UTC (link)
Tell me again why I'm supposed to like them as a couple?

Twenty years of really good, romantic, sexy interaction. All prior to 1996 or so. I have no fucking idea why people keep writing their dynamic the way it's been written the last few years. Old-school Ollie and Dinah are like Nick and Nora Charles, if Nora were a lot less useless and Nick were broke all the time. "We're here to kick ass and make flirtatious comments to each other... and we're all out of ass!"

Seriously, Mike goddamn GRELL wrote better Ollie and Dinah than this, and if you ask me, as a writer Grell is one hell of an artist.

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[info]jarodrussell
2009-04-15 11:02 pm UTC (link)
"It's always polite to at least ask your super-powered partner before rendering them unconscious." - Doctor Developer, Doctor Developer's Guide To Marriage: Men are from Metropolis, Women Are from Themescryia

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[info]uadlika
2009-04-15 11:08 pm UTC (link)
I can't tell you how much I want that book to be real.

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[info]jarodrussell
2009-04-15 11:10 pm UTC (link)
The third book in his trilogy is better, Doctor Developer Guide to Love: The Kama Supra. It has pictures.

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[info]bluefall
2009-04-15 11:17 pm UTC (link)
Man, if you include power kink (and you would have to), that book would be so damn long it's ridiculous.

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[info]jarodrussell
2009-04-15 11:21 pm UTC (link)
It's mostly deathtrap kink, with various traps for various powers, so while it's a wide topic it's a shallow presentation.

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[info]mullon
2009-04-15 11:43 pm UTC (link)
I thought they broke up in JLA.

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[info]seriousfic
2009-04-16 01:24 am UTC (link)
The moral of the story: Hitting your wife is okay so long as you only do it once!

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[info]ghosty732
2009-04-16 09:14 am UTC (link)
OR:

Hitting your husband is okay as long as he tased you first.

Or as long as he decided to start his own super-team first...

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[info]seriousfic
2009-04-16 09:34 am UTC (link)
I'm so glad DC killed off Scott/Barda and Ralph/Sue so we have time to look at healthy relationships like this one.

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[info]xdoop
2009-04-16 12:42 pm UTC (link)

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[info]sistermagpie
2009-04-16 02:35 pm UTC (link)
I love how Batman looks just annoyed in that picture. As opposed to vaguely horrified or something.

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[info]sailorlibra
2009-04-16 04:52 pm UTC (link)
And I love how Batman was the nicer one of the two, back in the day.

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[info]ex_octopusso248
2009-04-16 08:22 pm UTC (link)
I think I actually moaned in satisfaction at seeing Dinah hit Ollie.

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[info]aegof.livejournal.com
2009-04-16 08:38 pm UTC (link)
Nono, guys, this is great.

Which is that one JSA couple? The one that can't keep their hands off each other, unless they're moving their hands to a different spot? Liberty Belle and Hourman, I think?

This is like them, but with concussions.

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