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mysteryfan (mysteryfan) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-11-11 14:00:00

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char: batman/dick grayson, char: robin/red hood/jason todd, creator: grant morrison, creator: philip tan, title: batman and robin

Spoilers! Batman and Robin #6

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	toby_wan_kenobi 2009-11-11 08:26 pm UTC (link)
	Okay, what's the story with Jason coming back, then? I was under the impression that it was a time-punch- how is that not the case? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	manofbats 2009-11-11 08:27 pm UTC (link)
	The reality punch basically made his body an animated shell. The lazarus pit bath is what really brought him back. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	interrobamf 2009-11-11 08:35 pm UTC (link)
	The definition of "bringing back" can't include both because... Punch brought him back to life. Pit brought him back to a recognizable mental state. Notice how "brought back" can cover a variety of topics and is not only applicable to one specific grammatical object? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	manofbats 2009-11-11 08:47 pm UTC (link)
	The punch made his corpse crawl out of his coffin. Note the period at the end of that sentence and the use of the word corpse. The lazarus pit brought him back. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	interrobamf 2009-11-11 08:57 pm UTC (link)
	I'm not sure why the concept of "bringing back" being applied to or encompassing different things confounds and confuses you. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	manofbats 2009-11-11 08:58 pm UTC (link)
	It doesn't, but the concept of incorrectly applying it to something seems to escape you. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	akodo_rokku 2009-11-11 10:43 pm UTC (link)
	Please ignore manofbats. Seriously, trolls thrive on attention. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	khamelea 2009-11-11 09:46 pm UTC (link)
	I think a corpse that crawls out of a coffin qualifies as being at least "living dead," which is a somewhat livelier state than just plain dead. (Reply to this) (Parent)

jaybee3
2009-11-11 08:39 pm UTC (link)

The Lazarus Pit can also explain why Jason's become a nutjob (with Talia as well since Nysaa dumped her in it many times). Even though I like that Morrison ties up his stories together so that's he still references stuff he did long ago, the art is a bit off-putting. I don't care if he is a redhead or a brunette, Tan's Jason Todd looks nothing like any other version of him, so I can't really get into it.

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triss-neya.livejournal.com
2009-11-12 03:42 pm UTC (link)

Re: the hair.
Exatly. It's what's been bothering me. It shouldn't and it doesn't really matter that much that he might be a redhead now (other than screwing with continuity and making no sense) but it would be much easier to swallow if he at least looked similar to the way other artists drew him. Though I still prefere him as a black /brown haired kid since that at least doesn't distance him even more from his brothers and makes the artist actually work at making the ex robins look more unique in other ways.

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