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Tweak says, "why won't you let me play? :("

queenursula (queenursula) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-11-03 17:36:00

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char: captain america/steve rogers, char: deadpool/wade wilson, char: lady deadpool, creator: rob liefeld, publisher: marvel comics

Introducing Lady Deadpool!

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	punishermax 2009-11-03 10:59 pm UTC (link)
	Maybe he didn't like the direction for reasons other than homophobia? I don't know. I just think it's cool that a guy essentially embodies an entire decade of comics, for better or worse, that's pretty cool. To be fair, I also thought Onslaught was really cool when I was a kid so eh (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

box_in_the_box
2009-11-03 11:05 pm UTC (link)

I just think it's cool that a guy essentially embodies an entire decade of comics, for better or worse, that's pretty cool.

Except that he embodies everything about that decade that made me want to QUIT comics, which is NOT cool with me.

"Zeitgeist" itself is not an inherently good thing, if only because there are several eras of history, in various categories, that are themselves inherently BAD.

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	punishermax 2009-11-03 11:12 pm UTC (link)
	Maybe it's just nostalgia, but I thought Onslaught was really fun, I was a dumb little kid. Plus, I'd rather have Liefeld than anything on Teen Titans, Ultimatum, or any of the terrible Marvel Zombies shit. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

box_in_the_box
2009-11-03 11:18 pm UTC (link)

There are plenty of things that I grew up with, that I can appreciate as nostalgia objects, that I would absolutely not tolerate if they were done by current artists (see also: the incredibly bad animation standards of 90 percent of all 1980s cartoons). Art is supposed to EVOLVE and IMPROVE, and art that doesn't NEEDS TO GO EXTINCT.

Also, you continue to defend your choices as either/or alternatives, as though we MUST support Liefeld OR the current crop of shitty stories, whereas I refuse to endorse "the lesser of two evils" in art. If it's shit, it's shit, no matter WHAT it's compared to, and I'm not going to forgive Rob's shitty work even if I DO accept that there are people who are even WORSE.

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	punishermax 2009-11-03 11:21 pm UTC (link)
	Look bro, give me one artist these days who draws pouches with the same passion, the same panache, the same, do I dare.., majesty and Mr. Liefeld? This man gave us teh shocking revelation of Captain America with breasts! A story point which shockwaves to this very day. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	icon_uk 2009-11-03 11:21 pm UTC (link)
	Check out the relatively recent issue of Teen Titans he DID do... it's literally painful to look at. (Reply to this) (Parent)

halloweenjack
2009-11-04 05:32 pm UTC (link)

It's just nostalgia.

It's interesting, once you have a few years under your belt (and have, hopefully, read the work of more interesting and accomplished comics artists and writers), to go back and look at things that you used to like to see how well they age. Non-comics example: When I was a little kid, I used to think that Pippi Longstocking was the shit, and upon re-reading some of the stories as an adult, I realized why: she was independently wealthy, had superhuman strength, and no adult supervision whatsoever--a perfect kid's fantasy, but not really any substance there. Other books fared better; Little Toot, for example, not only has brilliant art, but is an incredibly compelling story about what it's like to be a kid who's terrified by the adult world.

Also, by comparing it to Ultimatum, you're setting the bar so low that the only reason that anyone wouldn't be able to clear it was that they might not see it and trip over it.

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