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Tweak says, "It rubs the lotion in its skin"

queenursula (queenursula) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-11-03 17:36:00

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char: captain america/steve rogers, char: deadpool/wade wilson, char: lady deadpool, creator: rob liefeld, publisher: marvel comics

Introducing Lady Deadpool!

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	xdoop 2009-11-03 10:52 pm UTC (link)
	He created him, but it was writers like Joe Kelly who made him a good character. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	box_in_the_box 2009-11-03 10:59 pm UTC (link)
	Seriously. Every single one of the worst stories ever told with Deadpool were all told by Rob Liefeld, who "created" him in the same sense that Bob Kane "created" batman. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	khamelea 2009-11-04 12:22 am UTC (link)
	You know that Bob Kane is the one who deserves credit for Batman's creation because Bob Kane is the one who was given credit for Batman's creation. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

psychop_rex
2009-11-04 10:37 am UTC (link)

He's given the credit for Batman's creation because of a contract he signed with DC that gave him sole credit for it, along with all the bonuses that came with it. He came up with the initial concept, true, and the character design, and his artwork was a big help in establishing the overall look and feel of the character, but most of the really important stuff - a number of the villains, the detective aspect, the origin, etc. - can be attributed to Bill Finger, the initial writer and co-creator. Bob Kane certainly had talent as an artist, and he deserves his share of credit, but overall, the guy's always struck me as a bit of an egotistical glory-hog.

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	khamelea 2009-11-04 07:20 pm UTC (link)
	I was trying to mock Kane's own circular demonstration of why he's Batman's creator as I remembered it. I guess I failed. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	psychop_rex 2009-11-04 10:08 pm UTC (link)
	Ah, OK, sorry. Sarcasm is sometimes difficult to read over the Internet. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	khamelea 2009-11-05 03:54 am UTC (link)
	My bad, I decided against tweaking the tone more or just putting a sarcasm tag up there. (Reply to this) (Parent)

psychop_rex
2009-11-04 10:44 am UTC (link)

I'm not sure that that's a fair comparison. The fact that Kane is touted as the sole creator of Batman is monstrously unfair, I admit, but credit where credit is due, the guy WAS a good artist, and without his artwork and character designs, Batman would likely have been a very different character. Liefeld, on the other hand, is NOT a good artist, and pretty much created Deadpool as just another throwaway character - he had nowhere near the same effect on Deadpool that Kane had on Batman.

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	box_in_the_box 2009-11-04 10:51 am UTC (link)
	Except that, while Kane was a vastly better artist, pretty much all of the ideas that made it into the final draft of Batman's character came from Finger, and all of the ideas that got thrown out came from Kane. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

psychop_rex
2009-11-04 12:34 pm UTC (link)

At this point, it's a little difficult to tell, given that both parties are dead. I don't think it was an equal partnership, by any means, but I have heard that Kane came up with at least a FEW brainstorms - the characters of the Penguin, Catwoman and Two-Face, for instance, are supposed to have been created by him, I think. At any rate, he put a hell of a lot more thought into the character than Liefeld put into Deadpool.

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