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espanolbot ([info]espanolbot) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-10-29 19:31:00

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Entry tags:creator: garth ennis, series: punisher week, title: punisher max

Punisher Max: The Tyger
Spoilers

In order to get things under the page limit, I'm going to have to cut down the story somewhat. Personally I reccommend that you track down the actual trade or issue because it's really worth it in my opinion.

It's 1960, and the place is New York City.

Frank is visiting a friend of his, called Lauren, and talks for a bit with her brother who is in the Marines.
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The "thing in the yard" involves a scab worker getting set on fire, which Frank's father may or may not have had a hand in, as the guy had taken the job of one of his friends who had been badly injured falling off a ladder.

Sal may have been Frank's inspiration for joining the Marines, amongst other things.

Not well known Frank fact: he used to like reading and writing poetry.

Only Blake's religious views were somewhat whitewashed by Frank's teacher, which doesn't lead to very good discussions.
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On the way home they see a friend of Lauren's, who has an "unfortunate accident",
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Later, these are the local Mafia outfit. They own the neighbourhood, pretty much, including the construction firm Frank's dad works for.
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Lauren then takes Frank to a natural history museum, where he sees things like models of dinosaurs, bears and sharks. The Tyger comes back to him when he sees them, but Lauren catches him off guard by kissing him and hurrying off.

Frank doesn't talk to Lauren for a few dads after this, as he doesn't really know how to cope with her being sweet on him, what with him being twelve or so and her being one of his oldest friends.

To take his mind off of it, he goes and talks to the brother of the girl who committed suicide, and he reveals she had been made pregnant by the Rosa kid but hadn't wanted to have sex with him. This puzzles Frank, as he doesn't even know what sex is at this point, let alone how he could get someone pregnant against their will.

It being the early Sixties in a Catholic neighbourhood, the dad places the blame squarely with the girl, prompting her to commit suicide.

Frank's next poetry class rolls around, and he sees Lauren for the first time in ages, only to find that she's upset,
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After this, Frank hears his parents talking. His mum mentions that Lauren was the latest in a long line of girls who have had sex with the young Rosa, some of whom were made pregnant.

When Frank's dad responds "Well they should have kept their thighs shut" Frank's mum looses it, yells at him about how they were raped and asks him why he and the other neighbourhood men are willing to burn someone half to death being a scab worker, but aren't willing to do something about something like this.

Frank's dad quietly says that they did, and after they had seen how Lauren's dad was now slowly drinking himself to death, they had gone around to the Rosas' cafe and asked "respectfully" if they could talk to the head of the Family to get the younger one to stop. The rapist's dad responds by getting his men to hold down one of Frank's dad's friends at random and breaking his fingers with a shotgun butt.

Frank's dad then explains that the reason why they don't do anything now is that they're too scared to, even though he was at Iwo Jima during the War he is too ashamed to "defend their women" and that shames him.

It's implied that the reason why the father's are coming down so hard on the rape victims is that that's the only way they can express their anger over the crimes, as taking out on the guy who actually did something wrong is out of the question.

Hearing all of this, Frank makes up his mind.

Waiting until his parents are asleep, he takes his father's gun and goes to the Rosa's cafe with the intend of shooting the Rapist.
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Turns out that Lauren's brother paid some girl to set up the trap in case you were wondering,
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After the rapist's father heard about this, he promptly died of a heart attack, and the new mafia guy was too busy with other things to come looking for who killed the young Mafia guy.

The next time Frank saw Sal, he was in Vietnam. Sal had resisted all attempts to get a promotion so that he'd stay in country and keep fighting, which he did until he was killed.

Frank, cutting to early in his career as the Punisher, remises about Lauren and Sal, and thinks that people would just blame Vietnam on what he does.



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[info]stranger_dan
2009-10-29 09:11 pm UTC (link)
I always come in here a couple of hours after a post like this gets yelled at for not having a cut and it gets fixed. Not today. :)

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[info]espanolbot
2009-10-29 09:17 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, as soon as I posted it I realised what happened to so I fixed it.

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[info]filthysize
2009-10-29 09:28 pm UTC (link)
I love this book so much. Easily the best Punisher story ever written. It's just fantastic from start to finish. The present-day bookends are fantastic, too, especially that one black page where there's just dialogue of the doctors that revived Frank after Central Park.

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[info]proteus_lives
2009-10-29 09:39 pm UTC (link)
This is easily one of my favorite Punisher stories.

"Tyger" It makes you shiver.

It seems like Frank's entire life was heading down one road. It's stories like this that make me think he's one of the greatest characters created by Marvel.

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[info]yaseen101
2009-10-29 09:50 pm UTC (link)
Despite my claim of liking heroes and some such, I never liked the Punisher. However, this story made me see him in a new light, thanks for posting this. I have now converted to a 'Punisher' fan.

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[info]damar148
2009-10-29 09:52 pm UTC (link)
'As long as I can remember, I always wanted to be a vigilante.'

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[info]filthysize
2009-10-29 09:59 pm UTC (link)
Exactly. This cribs so much from Scorsese, and it's all the better for it.

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[info]espanolbot
2009-10-29 10:22 pm UTC (link)
I'd say a lot of 'the Godfather Part 2' is in there as well, in the "gangster has a punk relative who pushes the neighbourhood around until someone kills him" way. Though that happened in the 20s, this is 1960.

Still, at least Ennis didn't lift entire sections out of the 'Godfather' movies and 'Goodfellas' like Jeph Loeb did in 'the Long Halloween' and 'Dark Victory'.

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[info]mullon
2009-10-29 10:16 pm UTC (link)
I know that Lauren had cut up her arm, but did she survive anyway?

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[info]espanolbot
2009-10-29 10:19 pm UTC (link)
No, she killed herself. Which lead to her dad sinking into alcoholism, and accumulated in her brother taking violent revenge on the guy for what he did to both his sister and their family.

It's a shame. She was nice in the story. :(

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[info]midnightvoyager
2009-10-30 12:23 am UTC (link)
Know that bit about how she "did it right"?

Yeah, cut down your arm like that and you drastically cut your chance of surviving it. Down the road, not across the street 'n all. If she cut across, they could have probably saved her.

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[info]volksjager
2009-10-29 10:44 pm UTC (link)
Artwork is truly something. The style really lends itself to the period.

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[info]wetstereorebel
2009-10-29 11:54 pm UTC (link)
So who did pencil this? It looks like John Severin to me, but I can't really envision him drawing Punisher.

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[info]thehefner
2009-10-30 03:00 am UTC (link)
It is indeed Severin. Pretty awesome, right? And a hell of a testament to the man as an artist.

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[info]jlroberson
2009-10-30 08:22 am UTC (link)
Severin never really gets his due because, I think, of these reasons, and I think you could say the same about Mort Drucker, or even Jose Luis Garcia Lopez. He was dependable and regular and did lots and lots of work, and so his style became so easy to find that it becomes kind of invisible--defaults, in the mass mind, to generic. Think possibly of how you might have viewed Swan vs. Kirby in your mind as a kid and that might illustrate the tone I think Severin's work took on. Particularly after he started working at CRACKED. It's also that his work, while he was capable of exaggeration, still has a very old-fashioned(in the good sense) finished, almost too-solid illustrative patina that is so professional that sometimes it fools you; it doesn't occur to people that they're looking at something someone drew. He doesn't call attention to his style the way another equal-level craftsman--who is still thought of as very individual--like Aragones or Davis does. The latter of which really did become commercial art, but somehow never became seen that way. Consider that Severin, at CRACKED, would stuff panels full of stuff just like Elder or Wood. Except when he did it, it's more of a "meh" effect. This despite Elder having once been a collaborator of his. But in Elder's case, that's to do with his, you might call it, anti-style, which tries to de-emphasize its own personality and talk through another style. But Severin lacked that anarchic level of energy that leaps out of Elder.

It's like, he was looking at it as a kind of commercial art much of the time anyway. Part of that is, indeed, making the style an invisible tool to another end. So by his lights that was success.

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[info]thehefner
2009-10-30 08:34 am UTC (link)
Well put.

It's funny, though, I first took notice of Severin at CRACKED when I was a wee sprat. Not just because of his art--I recalled he was always extremely adept at depicting celebrities--but because he frequently got shout-outs throughout the issue, as if the CRACKED staff were all remarking on how he was one of the few artists of note on the mag. At least they, it seemed, were aware of how notable he was/is.

And yet, as I've grown up, what you've said holds true for comics in general. And it's a damn shame.

You know what it is? Guys like Serverin and Garcia-Lopez are the Jeff Bridges of comics. They're that kind of excellent where you don't realize how excellent they are because it seems so natural, not flashy or attention-grabbing at all.

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[info]halloweenjack
2009-10-30 03:52 pm UTC (link)
Also well-put. It was a great story, but the art really sold me on it.

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[info]thandrak
2009-10-30 02:55 am UTC (link)
This, also, was my city once. Not so much anymore, no, but this was New York once.

Coulda been worse. Coulda been the priest. And no. I'm not going for the cheap gag, here.

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[info]lbd_nytetrayn
2009-10-30 05:45 am UTC (link)
Nice. Interesting to see justice get served, and Sal not wind up getting cut down for it.

I don't get the last line of the post, though, about blaming Vietnam on what Frank does...

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

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[info]halloweenjack
2009-10-30 03:57 pm UTC (link)
Another Punisher story--the Born mini, art by Darick Robertson. Shows Frank in his last few days in Vietnam. Or Ennis is just commenting on the "psycho Vietnam vet" stereotype, maybe.

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[info]janegray
2009-10-30 09:22 pm UTC (link)
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy!

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[info]yaseen101
2009-10-30 10:23 pm UTC (link)
This is one instance where I think and actually agree that the guy really got what he deserved.

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