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skalja ([info]skalja) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-10-23 00:50:00

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Entry tags:admin: mod post

[Admin] Proposal for a new home
[Mirrored at noscans_daily.]

Moving to Dreamwidth

In recent weeks, the mod team have been discussing options to make our particular corner of the internet more secure and user-friendly. Since our TOSing at LiveJournal, the community has regrown here at InsaneJournal. However, there still remain a number of issues with our new home - not least that we have no guarantee we won't get suspended from InsaneJournal just as we were from LJ. InsaneJournal was only ever intended to be a temporary home while we explored other options. Our search has been suspended over the past couple of months, but we've finally had the space to get back to it, and our top choice by a long shot is Dreamwidth.

We're now in discussions with the Dreamwidth admin and this is why we feel it's important to bring you guys to the table and get the input of the membership on a very important decision.

What is Dreamwidth?

Dreamwidth is a blogging/social networking site, much like LiveJournal or InsaneJournal. Where IJ is a clone of LJ, DW is a code fork - they've taken LJ's code and improved upon it. A crucial difference between DW and many other journaling sites, is its firm commitment to community, open source and free speech. You can read more about the site and its creators here: Ethos, Guiding Principles, Diversity Statement, Differences between Dreamwidth and LJ.

Why Dreamwidth?

There are a number of reasons why the mod team feels that Dreamwidth will make a good home for our community.

The biggest benefit is one we've already mentioned - the chances of the entire community being nuked because of a single copyright claim are seriously reduced. Dreamwidth believes in acting within the letter of the law while protecting its users, and if they received a DMCA complaint for a particular entry, they would issue a takedown notice for that entry only. At that point, the poster of the entry would have the option of either removing the entry, or filing a counternotification indicating that they believe their use of the material is protected under copyright law.

(In the latter case, the poster would notify Dreamwidth (under 17 USC 512(g)) that they believe their use of the material is non-infringing. However, the rights-holder would then be able to file suit in Federal court, and sometimes they do - Marvel in particular is known for being a bit litigious, so the nuke button is the recommended option.)

That's the biggest advantage to the move, but there are other, notable ones as well:

Dreamwidth is ad free.

It's run by the former customer relations manager at LJ and one of the original programmers, who brought on board many former Livejournal staff lost in the recent takeover. So they understand the technical and social aspects of LJ, effectively making it more of a "run by the fans, for the fans" atmosphere over the corporate Livejournal as well as providing the technical savvy. They've been able to make a true fork of the code and then maintain it, not just clone LJ's code and hope that the parent site makes bug fixes available. InsaneJournal currently uses an ancient version of the Livejournal code which is noticably clunky.

Dreamwidth also offers the option of crossposting and importing content from another site using OpenID. While we can't import the community directly (more on that below), users have the option of importing content from LiveJournal or other journals and/or crossposting entries made on Dreamwidth to LiveJournal. ETA: OpenID also allows you to comment to Dreamwidth entries using your LJ or IJ account without having a Dreamwidth account.

When talking to the Dreamwidth admins and looking over their legal documentation, we were very impressed by their commitment to building a strong and diverse community. Their improvements to the LJ model aren't just aimed at creating a more user-friendly journaling site, but also one that's open in its business policies and its acceptance of customers with all kinds of needs, beliefs, and ways of life. (Many of those customers are fannish, just like us, so we can count on being understood.) We believe that Dreamwidth's ideals are similar to those that the community strives for.

Getting an account/Move schedule

Dreamwidth is currently in open beta. This means that right now there are only two ways to get an account: by purchasing one, or by getting an invite code from a current user. We've spoken to the Dreamwidth maintainers about the logistics of moving a thousand-plus member community en masse, and they've said that if we can poll the community about the number of people who will need invites, they will provide them to us in bulk. We'll probably distribute them through a closed community where people can comment to request a code.

[ETA: There seems to be some confusion on this point, for which we apologize. If you don't have an account already and don't want to buy an account, we will make sure that you get an invite code. We have a poll here that we're asking members to take so we can get an accurate headcount for the Dreamwidth admins. They will give us as many codes as we need, and then we'll distribute them, the exact logistics of which we'll get into later when it's time to finalize details.]

Anyone interested in purchasing a paid account, on the other hand, should know that prices rise on November 1st, if you wish to take advantage of the lower prices for yearly or six monthly accounts. We've been asked to mention that although Dreamwidth is slightly more expensive than LJ, it's completely member-supported and will never be ad-subsidized. More information about how the account price points are set is here.


The New Tagging System

At the moment, the one drawback with the move to Dreamwidth is that the tagging system is more limited than InsaneJournal. Dreamwidth only allows 1000 tags per community (1500 on paid communities). Currently on this community we run over 3500 tags, so obviously many will be lost in the move.

We're discussing with our tag wranglers the best way of handling this change, but currently the proposal is to use a combination between in-journal tags (set by the original poster) and a Delicious account which will allow more detailed tagging and act as an external back-up that can will be edited by mods and volunteers. More details to follow when the system is finalized.

Scans Daily on IJ

The existing InsaneJournal community will remain in place. There is no advantage in deleting any posts and the posts and comments will be kept in perpetuity. In addition, with the community's agreement, we'd like to import all of the existing posts on InsaneJournal across to Dreamwidth. Unfortunately, because of the way that Dreamwidth's importer works and the copyright issues involved, it's not possible to simply use their importer. However, a work-around is possible which will import all entries, adding an "Originally posted by... to the top of the entry. Unfortunately comments won't be imported, but they will still be readable here.

Obviously, we wish to advise our members of our intention before simply importing entries. If a majority are in favor of importing the entries, we will do so; any original posters who are unhappy with a post being reproduced, can request we remove it from the archive.

The InsaneJournal version of Scans_Daily will be closed for new entries after the move.

Why can't we just stay here? I don't want to move.

Well, we could. But ultimately, the mod team feels our position at IJ is almost as precarious, if not equally precarious, as it ever was at LJ, and we certainly haven't lost any visibility to the wider comics community. Given the choice between waiting to get booted in some amorphous future, or taking the initiative to move to a better place now before we're entrenched at IJ with years of archives, we'd rather move now.


Scans Daily on Dreamwidth is here. If you already have an account, or access to an invite code, please go ahead and join. The comm is currently locked down, and won't be open until the move is complete.

The invite code distribution community is here. Membership will be limited to mods, but when we've got things set up, we'd appreciate you coming over and sharing your codes for the cause!

Comments, questions? Let 'em loose. And if you haven't already, be sure to take the invite code poll over at noscans_daily so we know how many are needed.

ETA: We've already had some very awesome folks offer their dreamwidth codes to donate to other members in need. If you're interested in doing so, please head to this post and comment with your codes. All comments are screened by default. We might not be able to reply to you immediately, but we will definitely keep you posted.

Thanks, guys!
- the mod team



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I'm a tad confused - please bear with me
[info]taggerung301
2009-10-22 11:06 pm UTC (link)
OK, so its great that a better home for scans daily has been found, but unless I have misread this, we have to either pay for dreamweaver or get invited by someone who already has it to use it for free, correct?

Are the invites limited? I've been lurking, and more recently posting, on scans daily for at least 3 years, but i honestly don't know if I've struck up any friendships where i could get invited

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Re: I'm a tad confused - please bear with me - [info]sailorlibra, 2009-10-22 11:09 pm UTC
Re: I'm a tad confused - please bear with me - [info]angelophile, 2009-10-22 11:10 pm UTC
Re: I'm a tad confused - please bear with me - [info]skalja, 2009-10-22 11:16 pm UTC

[info]sailorlibra
2009-10-22 11:06 pm UTC (link)
I have to admit that the change worries me a little, mainly because we're moving to site that doesn't have open admission. I feel like this would limit the number of new members we would get, as they would either have to be acquainted with a Dreamwidth user or be willing to pay. Would SD have codes to provide even after the big move? It's all a bit confusing to me. Staying at IJ doesn't seem like a good choice either, but it seems like a more accessible site than Dreamwidth would be better.

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(no subject) - [info]schmevil, 2009-10-22 11:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-10-22 11:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]skalja, 2009-10-22 11:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-10-22 11:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]skalja, 2009-10-23 12:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]skalja, 2009-10-22 11:29 pm UTC
A question - [info]strannik01, 2009-10-23 06:11 am UTC
Re: A question - [info]skalja, 2009-10-23 01:37 pm UTC

[info]xdoop
2009-10-22 11:08 pm UTC (link)
So we'd be able to post more than 1/3 of a story?

Is there anyway to move the entries from here over to the new comm?

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(no subject) - [info]angelophile, 2009-10-22 11:13 pm UTC

[info]xdoop
2009-10-22 11:12 pm UTC (link)
I think it's also possible to use dreamwidth via openid.

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(no subject) - [info]sandoz_iscariot, 2009-10-22 11:52 pm UTC

[info]madripoor_rose
2009-10-22 11:16 pm UTC (link)
Well, It was fun while it lasted, but I won't be following the comm to dreamwidth.

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(no subject) - [info]nerium_oleander, 2009-10-23 02:04 am UTC
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[info]spiritoftherain.livejournal.com
2009-10-22 11:17 pm UTC (link)
I have a Dreamwidth journal, with about 11 invite codes at the least. If need be I'd be willing to give them out free to SD members in order to get the ball rolling there. Sure, I can't help everyone, but I figure it's the least I can do if DW doesn't want to give them up?

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(no subject) - [info]spiritoftherain.livejournal.com, 2009-10-22 11:20 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]schmevil, 2009-10-22 11:24 pm UTC

[info]calliopes_pen
2009-10-22 11:18 pm UTC (link)
Like [info]madripoor_rose, I wouldn't be following it over to DW. I just don't really care for the place.

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[info]intothedepths
2009-10-22 11:19 pm UTC (link)
I have a dreamwidth account but no invites at the moment. As soon as some become available I will post them here. It's not much but it will help

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(no subject) - [info]skalja, 2009-10-22 11:40 pm UTC

[info]buttler
2009-10-22 11:24 pm UTC (link)
Good lord, another move? I haven't even had a chance to load up my old user icons here yet! Sounds like I should skip Dreamwidth and just wait a few months until you move from there to yet another site.

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[info]bluefall
2009-10-22 11:26 pm UTC (link)
I've got a Dth, which I don't use, and some invite codes which I never handed out, so I could roll, I like the ethos there, and the superior coding, and the greater legal protections, but, three serious problems spring immediately to mind:

- Icons
- Tags
- Money

Dth does not offer nearly enough of the first two, and asks too much of the third. You can't just pick up a Dth account - you need to pay or get an invite, which is a hassle and a barrier to entry that will drive a lot of people off. If you do pay, the cost of your account actually rises over time, which may be logical from a resource perspective but punishes loyal customers. As for tags, we've already done a lot to kill the joy of tagging here over our old LJ incarnation, but it's at least still an easy community effort that anyone can contribute to with a single click when they see a post that could use it, and which allows one-click navigation or easy ctrl+F two-click navigation without ever leaving the S_D site and format. Delicious makes a good addition to, but it's no sound replacement for.

It may be a legal and defensive step up, but it's a performative and interactive step down.

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[info]intothedepths
2009-10-22 11:35 pm UTC (link)
almost forgot...there are dreamwidth codes here

http://community.livejournal.com/dreamwidth/

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[info]mullon
2009-10-22 11:38 pm UTC (link)
Okay, if I understand this correctly, I'm going to need a code because I don't have a Dreamwidth account.

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(no subject) - [info]skalja, 2009-10-23 01:37 am UTC

[info]jlbarnett
2009-10-22 11:38 pm UTC (link)
So how's this invite system work?

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[info]volksjager
2009-10-22 11:43 pm UTC (link)
Junteanah will be excited she is already on DW "Iskander".

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[info]fungo_squiggly
2009-10-22 11:52 pm UTC (link)
Well, put me in with the "will need an invite code" tally.

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(no subject) - [info]skalja, 2009-10-22 11:58 pm UTC
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[info]darkknightjrk
2009-10-23 12:00 am UTC (link)
Question about the invites and the money thing:

The invites seem to be a free access to the site, but it sounds like the method of payment is in monthly increments. Is the code permenant access, or does it have a time-limit in which you'd have to start paying afterwards to use?

But, sounds like a strong site, and, worst comes to worst, I'll probably hop on with an openID, if that's free to use.

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(no subject) - [info]sandoz_iscariot, 2009-10-23 12:13 am UTC

[info]toby_wan_kenobi
2009-10-23 12:09 am UTC (link)
As a long-time lurker and occasional commenter, I would very much like to have a code. S_D is the only reason I have an InsaneJournal account, after all!

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Lurking Non-Member - (Anonymous), 2009-10-23 06:57 am UTC

[info]jarodrussell
2009-10-23 12:20 am UTC (link)
I have a DW account (and five invites if anyone needs them), but I'm kind of partial to IJ. I'll go where the community goes, but my vote is stay here and figure out a way to backup to either a blog or a DW account.

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(no subject) - [info]skalja, 2009-10-23 01:37 am UTC

[info]zechs27
2009-10-23 12:24 am UTC (link)
An interesting idea. Of course where-ever Scans Daily goes I shall follow.

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[info]liarashadowsong
2009-10-23 12:37 am UTC (link)
Well, I only got my IJ account to follow s_d, so I guess I'll be setting up one of the free-with-an-invite-code accounts on DreamWidth. I can deal with that.

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[info]superfan1
2009-10-23 12:52 am UTC (link)
I heard about the site and be following. :)

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[info]suigetsuxsasuke
2009-10-23 12:53 am UTC (link)
Will be following, but need a code LOL. :)

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[info]kingrockwell
2009-10-23 12:55 am UTC (link)
One more question, do we have any kind of timetable, or are you still gauging the community's thoughts before really setting one?

speaking of Questions, i'm not sure if i'd want my Vic posts moved over unless i did it manually. i end up cross-referencing them a lot with link tags as i go forward, so the ability to edit each post might be pretty important

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[info]nezchan
2009-10-23 12:58 am UTC (link)
I actually know one of the owners of Dreamwidth, and given who it is, I enthusiastically support the move. Even beyond the other considerations, and the per-post DMCA thing is a big one here, I know she has a serious commitment to what she does. I have absolutely zero doubts about the wisdom of the move.

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[info]proteus_lives
2009-10-23 01:00 am UTC (link)
I'll follow because I love this community.

The tags thing concerns me but it's nothing that can't be worked out.

The devil is in the details of course. We'll see how it works out.

"Hoping against hope that the next leap will be the leap home."

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