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starwolf_oakley (starwolf_oakley) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-09-25 23:54:00

Entry tags:

char: batman/bruce wayne, char: robin/nightwing/dick grayson, creator: devin grayson, publisher: dc comics, title: nightwing

NIGHTWING #99: Bruce, Dick and angst
Upon request, here is the end of NIGHTWING #99, when Dick finds out Babs, Tim and Cass have left Gotham City *and* that Stephanie is dead.

It seems a lot of DC would like to forget that Devin Grayson ever wrote NIGHTWING, but Dick is making some good points here. I think.

Dick: Bruce, why are we doing this?
Bruce: My parents are dead.
Dick: That's no kind of answer. My parents are dead, too.
Bruce: Ah, well played.

As I posted earlier, this is Bruce's way of saying "Crime is crime, and it's not my fault heroin is illegal."

This leads to Dick turning Tarantula in, and attempting to turn himself in as well.

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nevermore999
2009-09-26 04:21 am UTC (link)

I love the tact here.

Dick: You pushed everyone away!

Bruce: I pushed Stephanie so far away she fell off a cliff.

Dick: What? Stephanie What?

Bruce: Yeah, Black Mask tortured her or something. Not nice huh?

Dick: What the FUCK, Bruce!

Bruce: Also, the gang war was her fault.

Dick: Wait-

Bruce: I just want to clarify it wasn't my fault. We all knew she was just like Jason, anyway. Tim wants to go to Bludhaven so he can be all grim and gritty, plus Gotham depresses him for some reason now. I sent Cassandra there too because I'm tired of her moping. She acts like her best friend died or something!

Dick: Jason was...then Tim was... is this like, the second Robin we've had die?

Bruce: I guess it's just you and me old buddy!

Dick: ....

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	ladymirth 2009-09-26 04:52 am UTC (link)
	That's exactly how it reads to me too. I just can't fault Dick for getting on his motorcycle and away from the Crazy Man. Of course, I CAN fault him for turning into a MOB ENFORCER WTF, but hell, comics logic. shrugs (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jelly_ace 2009-09-26 05:58 am UTC (link)
	What line? confusion (Reply to this) (Thread)

	starwolf_oakley 2009-10-14 07:00 pm UTC (link)
	The "line" between what they did and what they didn't do as vigilantes. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	shadowpsykie 2009-09-26 06:24 am UTC (link)
	as much as people say they hate Devin Grayson's run, she had some very good points, my only real problem was the whole tarantuala rape thing, even tarantula her self was an interesting anti-hero... you know rape aside (Reply to this) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-09-26 08:52 am UTC (link)
	Except the points she's making about to the state of Gotham are all points she helped bring about since she helped write War Games. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	mysteryfan 2009-09-26 02:20 pm UTC (link)
	Although War Games is 27 parts long with seven different writers (She's credited for four out of the 27 parts) and crossed over... looks like every title and kind of looks to me like every bat writer at the time wrote some of it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-09-26 03:08 pm UTC (link)
	I could be wrong, but I'm sure I've seen it discussed somewhere (possibly in an interview with Willingham) that she was the other main plotter of the arc as it was presented to the writers. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	mysteryfan 2009-09-26 03:12 pm UTC (link)
	Interesting. I'd love to know how much (and when) editorial intervention took place, too. From what I can tell, it sounds like a lot. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	icon_uk 2009-09-26 12:45 pm UTC (link)
	And whilst Tarantual might have started as an anti-hero (though how that ties in with her apparent hero worship of John Law, the original Tarantual makes no real sense, since he WAS a hero) but as soon as she allied herself with Blockbuster she moved from anti-hero to super-villain. (Reply to this) (Parent)

sistermagpie
2009-09-26 02:10 pm UTC (link)

So sad. I don't know if I'd quite be able to follow what Dick wanted me to say there if I was Bruce, but wow this really is a moment of "We are all too completely fucked up right now to function." Bruce's trying to just hold on to his marching orders when people need some emotional sense is pretty tragic.

I don't see how Bruce is in any way wrong in his delivery of the situation, though, in the way he tells Dick what happened to Stephanie. Dick says he pushed everyone away, Bruce tells him that Stephanie is dead and exactly how she died. Don't see any lack of tact in that part. Those are the facts. They make Bruce want to disassociate and focus on practicaal things, they make the healthier Dick need to seriously talk about the big picture.

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	mysteryfan 2009-09-26 02:29 pm UTC (link)
	Don't see any lack of tact in that part. Those are the facts. They make Bruce want to disassociate and focus on practical things, they make the healthier Dick need to seriously talk about the big picture. Yeah. That's the way I read it. I like the contrast between ways of dealing, too. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	yaseen101 2009-09-26 05:17 pm UTC (link)
	Me too. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	ex_naela777 2009-09-26 02:19 pm UTC (link)
	Well... despite everything I did kind of liked how Bruce wrapped Dick in his cloak. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	sistermagpie 2009-09-26 02:27 pm UTC (link)
	Oh god! I forgot, that was the thing I wanted to comment on. I love it. Don't come down in the cave without a shirt, sweetie, you'll catch a chill. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-09-27 12:39 am UTC (link)
	He let him run around the place in little more than t-shirt and briefs for most of his life, it's a little late to be worried about the cold isn't it? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	sistermagpie 2009-09-27 01:26 am UTC (link)
	When he's injured or sick he needs to bundle up more, I feel.:-) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	mysteryfan 2009-09-26 02:25 pm UTC (link)
	Regarding scan 2: I'm reading War Games right now and I'm wondering. Do we ever see the moment when Stephanie chooses the contingency plan?] And do you think we are to think, when Dick refers to the odds against her, that he's specifically referring to the odds during War Games or something more? (Reply to this)

	mysteryfan 2009-09-26 02:31 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, and thank you for posting it! It's not officially part of the War Games Epilogue and kind of seems like it should be. (Reply to this)

	taggerung301 2009-09-26 04:25 pm UTC (link)
	thanks for posting this! :D (Reply to this)

	(Anonymous) 2009-09-27 04:07 am UTC (link)
	I love Bruce putting his cape around Dick's shoulders. It's a rare gesture of affection from him. (Reply to this)