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mysteryfan ([info]mysteryfan) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-09-25 14:23:00

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Entry tags:char: batgirl/cassandra cain, char: batgirl/oracle/barbara gordon, char: batman/bruce wayne, char: robin/red hood/jason todd, char: spoiler/robin/batgirl/steph brown, creator: andersen gabrych, creator: cam smith, creator: pete woods, title: detective comics

Jason's Eighteenth Birthday















From Detective #790 and War Drums TPB


tags: title: Detective Comics, char: Batman/Bruce Wayne, char: Batgirl/Cassandra Cain, char: Oracle/Batgirl/Barbara Gordon, char: Spoiler/Robin/Batgirl/Stephanie Brown, char: Red Hood/Robin/Jason Todd, creator:Anderson Gabrych, creator: Pete Woods, creator: Cam Smith


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[info]trelas
2009-09-25 09:19 pm UTC (link)
Of course I also agreed with the points you mentioned, I just forgot to mention that in my reply before yammering on about my interpretation. Sorry about that.

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[info]mysteryfan
2009-09-25 09:25 pm UTC (link)
No worries. We're agreed then. All is good! I like your interpretation. It's making me think about it kind of a lot.

And I shouldn't have said 'support'. I just went back and reread, and he's really contacting Cass for her sake, not his. I just want to imagine that he also perhaps got something out of talking a little.

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[info]trelas
2009-09-25 09:42 pm UTC (link)
I don't think contacting Cass is actually that simple. We see Bruce going through people he could call and talk to after Babs calls, we see him face his mortality in the mirror, prior to the story we saw him project Jason's fate to girl who OD'd. Bruce needs to tell someone to talk to, but at the same time he isn't someone who just goes to talk to people about his feelings.

So I don't think it's fair to say he contacted Cass for her sake, I think it's for both their sakes. He needs Cass to understand why he did what he did and why he is behaving the way he does, to comfort her, yes, but he also needs to talk to someone who understands what a normal life means to people like them. That speech he gives to Cass is filled with regret and is quite rare in revealing how Bruce wonders about his own actions. It isn't just about Cass, it is also about Bruce, and the scene in the scans, to me at least, indicates very strongly that Bruce also realizes that.

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[info]mysteryfan
2009-09-25 09:46 pm UTC (link)
Oh, I like that very, very much!

And good! It wasn't just me projecting, then.

This really is a well-written story.

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[info]sistermagpie
2009-09-25 10:41 pm UTC (link)
It is very typical of Bruce to find some indirect way of getting the emotional support or connection he needs. I don't think he'd ever be able to ask for absolution or something like that about Jason, but telling Cass about him he can see as the Right Thing To Do. But it's no accident that she's the one he's talking to there, and I agree it's not even just about Cass having, say, less baggage/history with Jason. He does, I think, see some instinctual understanding there.

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[info]mysteryfan
2009-09-25 10:53 pm UTC (link)
He does, I think, see some instinctual understanding there.

I agree. And also, I was thinking, it's so human, right? To mourn someone by talking about them, their quirks and details and the things they liked. So it's really great that he could 'introduce' someone to Jason. If it'd been someone who knew Jason, he couldn't do that. Not that *that* would be the only reason not to bring Babs, Dick or Tim, but it's something that occurred to me.

But more than that, she is the perfect one to take with him, and he really does open up to her.

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