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Tweak says, ""Down the rabbit hole, Alice!""

D. (heir) wrote in rooms,
@ 2015-08-10 03:09:00

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!dc comics, *journal, *log, barbara gordon, damian wayne, donna carroll, helena wayne, jason todd, selina kyle, stephanie brown

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So much for that.

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Re: jason t/damian w

thelazarus
2015-08-12 07:42 pm UTC (link)

So that's what this is about?

You've been dead twice, Damian. Both times, it fucked up just about everybody. Then you show up again, two seconds after I visit what was left of Gwen at the library, and at the exact moment the kids who were supposed to be under my protection get kidnapped out of their beds. I didn't know who you were or what, and I wasn't in the mood for round three with you on top of everything else. Fucking sue me.

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	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-12 07:45 pm UTC (link)
	I have not been dead. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w thelazarus 2015-08-12 07:50 pm UTC (link)
	[...] I get that. But to everybody here, you have. You got burned to death in front of Bruce, and then shot, also in front of him. And that second time, you had come back and you were leaning on Helena for moral support. Next thing anyone hears, you're killing and crippling your way through town. But you're shocked I'm not her biggest fan. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-12 07:53 pm UTC (link)
	I'm not shocked. Whoever that man was everyone so mourns, was and is not me. Yet I pay for what he did. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: jason t/damian w

thelazarus
2015-08-12 11:12 pm UTC (link)

I'm not saying you have to pay for it. I'm trying to tell you what happened, and that it's starting to piss me off, people dying and cropping back up again. We'll say I'm already not a massive fan of people being raised from the dead? And when they die and everyone mourns them and then they're just there again, it makes it cheap, somehow. It feels wrong. Which doesn't really have a thing to do with you at all.

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	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-12 11:17 pm UTC (link)
	[-tt-] No. Yet you won't look at your girlfriend. You can't say it's not personal and then say it makes a death feel cheap by the mere fact of someone else's existence. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: jason t/damian w

thelazarus
2015-08-12 11:20 pm UTC (link)

[...]

She's not her. She didn't die, then come in from another door. She got eaten. Eaten. And then the thing that ate her made another version of her with what it had taken from the girl it killed.

I'm not saying she's not a person, or that she's Carnage, because they checked for that and she isn't, but she isn't Gwen. She's not even a ghost. She's somebody else who remembers the same things and looks the same, and that's worse, somehow, like killing her wasn't enough.

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	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-12 11:37 pm UTC (link)
	You're an idiot. They're not the same person, but she's still Gwen. I'm still Damian. Get over yourself, Todd. The woman here now had nothing to do with whatever you're talking about. It's not cheap because they have nothing to do with each other. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w thelazarus 2015-08-12 11:44 pm UTC (link)
	Gwen died a month ago. She showed up not two weeks after Gwen got killed in a way so messy I got some of her on my fucking clothes when I went to the crime scene. And you just met her for the first time, what, last week? I don't think you get to tell me what I should think about anybody. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-12 11:48 pm UTC (link)
	You're wrong. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w thelazarus 2015-08-13 12:18 am UTC (link)
	She died. She's DEAD. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-13 12:21 am UTC (link)
	Yes, she is. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: jason t/damian w

thelazarus
2015-08-13 01:48 am UTC (link)

[A long period of silence.]

I don't know if I can get over that. Gwen's dead, long live Gwen? I don't know if I can. Does that make me [...] shit I can't even believe I'm asking you this. Am I fucked up? For not getting the picture, like everybody else does, and just jumping over the wall and moving on. It's like it's just going to be one of those things I don't understand, and everyone else is on board.

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	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-13 02:01 am UTC (link)
	She's dead. The woman here isn't her. Those are separate things. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w thelazarus 2015-08-13 02:11 am UTC (link)
	How are they separate? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-13 02:21 am UTC (link)
	She's dead. The woman here isn't. That's how. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w thelazarus 2015-08-13 02:48 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, I guess. But I can't just pick up where I left off with her. [...] You done with the League? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-13 03:18 am UTC (link)
	She's not the same person. Why would you? [-tt-] I'm here, aren't I? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w thelazarus 2015-08-13 03:22 am UTC (link)
	That's what everyone else she knows is doing. Good. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-13 04:00 am UTC (link)
	So? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w thelazarus 2015-08-14 02:34 am UTC (link)
	[...] Because she's having a rough time, and I know me not just accepting her with open arms isn't making it easier on her. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-14 03:00 am UTC (link)
	You could just get to know her. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w thelazarus 2015-08-14 03:04 am UTC (link)
	I guess. Not that there's much about her I'd need to get to know. [...] Since when did you start giving out advice? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-14 03:49 am UTC (link)
	That's not true. Since I apparently became better with people than you. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w thelazarus 2015-08-14 04:14 am UTC (link)
	She remembers all the same things. She acts the same. That's really depressing. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)