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D. (heir) wrote in rooms,
@ 2015-08-10 03:09:00

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!dc comics, *journal, *log, barbara gordon, damian wayne, donna carroll, helena wayne, jason todd, selina kyle, stephanie brown

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So much for that.

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	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-11 05:14 am UTC (link)
	You're similar to her. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w thelazarus 2015-08-11 05:22 am UTC (link)
	Tell me how, since you know so much about me. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-11 05:24 am UTC (link)
	Acting out, seeking attention. Rather than kill yourself, however, you hurt others. I suppose this makes Helena the better of the two of you. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w thelazarus 2015-08-11 05:32 am UTC (link)
	So you know somebody in this family who didn't start going after thugs because they were angry? Tell me who. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-11 05:34 am UTC (link)
	And there's another similarity. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w thelazarus 2015-08-11 11:06 pm UTC (link)
	Between me and you? Sure, I guess so. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-11 11:08 pm UTC (link)
	You and her. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w thelazarus 2015-08-11 11:09 pm UTC (link)
	Point made. I'm just like Helena. Great job. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-11 11:18 pm UTC (link)
	You are. You don't see it? Supremely self-loathing, but without a sense of responsibility—true responsibility. External locus of control. Prone to acting out, resentful. The sole difference, perhaps, is she internalizes more. Need I go on? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w thelazarus 2015-08-11 11:42 pm UTC (link)
	[...] You don't know what responsibility I feel. True responsibility? What does the even mean? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-12 02:04 am UTC (link)
	I'm sure you can figure it out. If not, ask the girl in the knee-highs you couldn't stand looking at. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: jason t/damian w

thelazarus
2015-08-12 03:27 am UTC (link)

I've got a responsibility to help people in this town when the mob is crushing them, and I do that. I had a responsibility to the kids, and I took care of the people that took them. So what am I missing, Damian? What else have you got that I don't? You think because you ran the League you're better than everyone else? You think you're more true?

Gwen's none of your fucking business. If you're really suggesting I could have done more for her, that she was my responsibility before she got killed, you're an idiot.

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	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-12 05:59 am UTC (link)
	You make this easy. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w thelazarus 2015-08-12 03:38 pm UTC (link)
	Glad you're enjoying yourself. Did you get what you wanted? Feel better? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-12 07:10 pm UTC (link)
	Need I remind you it was you who told me you wanted nothing to do with me? Yet you expect sympathy from me? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: jason t/damian w

thelazarus
2015-08-12 07:42 pm UTC (link)

So that's what this is about?

You've been dead twice, Damian. Both times, it fucked up just about everybody. Then you show up again, two seconds after I visit what was left of Gwen at the library, and at the exact moment the kids who were supposed to be under my protection get kidnapped out of their beds. I didn't know who you were or what, and I wasn't in the mood for round three with you on top of everything else. Fucking sue me.

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	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-12 07:45 pm UTC (link)
	I have not been dead. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w thelazarus 2015-08-12 07:50 pm UTC (link)
	[...] I get that. But to everybody here, you have. You got burned to death in front of Bruce, and then shot, also in front of him. And that second time, you had come back and you were leaning on Helena for moral support. Next thing anyone hears, you're killing and crippling your way through town. But you're shocked I'm not her biggest fan. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-12 07:53 pm UTC (link)
	I'm not shocked. Whoever that man was everyone so mourns, was and is not me. Yet I pay for what he did. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: jason t/damian w

thelazarus
2015-08-12 11:12 pm UTC (link)

I'm not saying you have to pay for it. I'm trying to tell you what happened, and that it's starting to piss me off, people dying and cropping back up again. We'll say I'm already not a massive fan of people being raised from the dead? And when they die and everyone mourns them and then they're just there again, it makes it cheap, somehow. It feels wrong. Which doesn't really have a thing to do with you at all.

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	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-12 11:17 pm UTC (link)
	[-tt-] No. Yet you won't look at your girlfriend. You can't say it's not personal and then say it makes a death feel cheap by the mere fact of someone else's existence. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: jason t/damian w

thelazarus
2015-08-12 11:20 pm UTC (link)

[...]

She's not her. She didn't die, then come in from another door. She got eaten. Eaten. And then the thing that ate her made another version of her with what it had taken from the girl it killed.

I'm not saying she's not a person, or that she's Carnage, because they checked for that and she isn't, but she isn't Gwen. She's not even a ghost. She's somebody else who remembers the same things and looks the same, and that's worse, somehow, like killing her wasn't enough.

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	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-12 11:37 pm UTC (link)
	You're an idiot. They're not the same person, but she's still Gwen. I'm still Damian. Get over yourself, Todd. The woman here now had nothing to do with whatever you're talking about. It's not cheap because they have nothing to do with each other. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w thelazarus 2015-08-12 11:44 pm UTC (link)
	Gwen died a month ago. She showed up not two weeks after Gwen got killed in a way so messy I got some of her on my fucking clothes when I went to the crime scene. And you just met her for the first time, what, last week? I don't think you get to tell me what I should think about anybody. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: jason t/damian w heir 2015-08-12 11:48 pm UTC (link)
	You're wrong. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)