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circadia (circadia) wrote in qaf_coffeeclub,
@ 2009-03-16 13:42:00

513
I'll make this quick and point me in the right direction if this has already been discussed:
Where the heck was Justin in 513 when everyone else was saying goodbye to Lindsay, Melanie and the kids? It just seems strange to me that he wouldn't be there.

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	happier_bunny 2009-03-16 06:27 pm UTC (link)
	ROFL...now I see what you mean. If I had seen this, I just would have just commented. ;) Brian would have let Justin make his own decisions about when to say good-bye to the girls and I think that Justin probably did it on his own time since he had to get stuff ready for NY. ;) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	vl_redreign 2009-03-16 06:32 pm UTC (link)
	Forgive teh Bunny. She's sick and cranky. I actually just typed "cracky." snorts Justin still hates fangirls, but forgives anyone just poking fun. If you knock him up, though... (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	butternutsquash 2009-03-16 06:42 pm UTC (link)
	What is visible!fangirl? I get that Justin hates her, but I don't know what she is. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	vl_redreign 2009-03-16 07:02 pm UTC (link)
	Ah...well, you'd have to read vamphile's brilliantly cracky Superstar, followed by Visisble. Then, onto this equally crack story that I wrote for a challenge using fangirl!hating!Justin. Then you'll understand. The fangirl parts come in Visible, and they are...it's crack at its finest. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	circadia 2009-03-17 08:48 pm UTC (link)
	OMG I just finished Superstar and am making my way through Visible. This is just...no words. Crazy fangirls, bodyguards. ROFL. When I finish Visible, I'll move on to yours. What fic is it? (Or which challenge?) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	vl_redreign 2009-03-17 09:19 pm UTC (link)
	It's here. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	happier_bunny 2009-03-16 06:47 pm UTC (link)
	bite me mistress If you knock him up...he gets really hormonal, although, I think Brian would be worse.. snort (Reply to this) (Parent)

	butternutsquash 2009-03-16 06:41 pm UTC (link)
	Really, I agree. But then I couldn't have written, "No twats allowed." It's kind of weird Justin wasn't there, just like it was kind of weird the girls were there for his prom night. These people are all up in each other's lives. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	happier_bunny 2009-03-16 06:44 pm UTC (link)
	LOL...but, I don't think it's weird at all. I think he and the girls have their own relationship that doesn't really include Brian and that's likewise why I don't think it's weird that they were there for the prom. The girls love him. ;) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	butternutsquash 2009-03-16 06:54 pm UTC (link)
	I guess we just hadn't seen that in a really long while. Not that he shouldn't have been there, or should have been there. Ted and Emmett weren't there either, so I guess it was just a family goodbye. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

happier_bunny
2009-03-16 06:57 pm UTC (link)

Brian letting Justin be himself is one of the most beautiful things about the love for me. One of the best examples I can think of is after Vic dies, Justin does what's best for him and goes back to the house. I also love how in season 3 both the girls and Deb let Justin know he was a part of their lives regardless of Brian. And how he KNOWS that so well that in season five, he visits the girls after he gets back from LA.

I love them so!

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	vl_redreign 2009-03-16 07:05 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, good call, Mistress! I totally agree. Deb was so pissed when Michael told her what he said to Justin, I thought she was gonna smack him!! Again. lol (Reply to this) (Parent)

	butternutsquash 2009-03-16 07:08 pm UTC (link)
	Sometimes I think that Brian is the most mature one of the bunch: he doesn't try to change Justin or try to make Justin happy (because happiness can only come from within, but Brian does thoughtful things for Justin). (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	happier_bunny 2009-03-16 07:10 pm UTC (link)
	I'm not sure I'd go that far but I agree that he does some very thoughtful things for Justin and it's oh so beautiful to watch him grow into accepting his love for Justin. :D (Reply to this) (Parent)

	circadia 2009-03-17 08:18 pm UTC (link)
	That's true, and we know Ted and Emmett had their own relationship with Lindsay and Melanie. Em put on their wedding and they trusted Ted with the college fund money, so they must have all done their goodbyes in their own time - with the dads wanting to see their kids right up until the last minute. (Reply to this) (Parent)

circadia
2009-03-16 09:32 pm UTC (link)

I agree that he and the girls have their own special relationship. He may associate them first off as "Brian's lesbians" to Daphne, but when he spends time with them, you see that relationship develop independently of his relationship with Brian - which we see when (1) they are probably the first people he calls and they give him a place to stay while Brian is dealing with Hotlanta (2) There for prom (3) His 19th birthday (although that brought on Ian *shudders*) (4) During the S3 breakup, they make sure to tell him he's still a part of their lives ... and so on and so on.

I guess he just said goodbye to them in their own way. I think I'm inclined to say, given all this insight, I'm leaning toward the idea that he made a point to go over at some point to say his goodbyes before they packed up the car, and just let Brian do his thing when he needed to say goodbye to one of his best friends and his son.
He's attached to Gus and the kids, just like Ben is attached to them (in a non-blood-relation, partner-is-a-father, cares-about-them way). But Michael and Ben are the more "couple-y" couple anyway, and I feel like Ben might have almost been hesitant to go but Michael asked/told him to come along, while Justin knew Brian might need his space to deal with the departure in his own way. Plus, he did need to say goodbye to Daphne and his mother but still leave time for hot!farewell!sex with Brian before leaving for NY.

I don't think Brian asked him to stay. I think it was one of those things Justin decided.

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	circadia 2009-03-16 09:39 pm UTC (link)
	These people are all up in each other's lives. Haha, well the are each others' surrogate families :) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

orange_fonts
2009-03-17 03:48 am UTC (link)

I agree that he and the girls have their own special relationship.

Agree. Just like Emmett. Justin is their baby, too.

I guess he just said goodbye to them in their own way. I think I'm inclined to say, given all this insight, I'm leaning toward the idea that he made a point to go over at some point to say his goodbyes before they packed up the car, and just let Brian do his thing when he needed to say goodbye to one of his best friends and his son.

Again agree. It’s like letting Brian and Michael have their “moments” with the mothers of their children and their children, of course. I believe that Justin would not let them leave without saying his proper goodbye. I believe he would have discussed with them, how to maintain contact and update each other. He loves Gus. Maybe, he would have played with him before saying his goodbye, reminded him to not forget him, tell him how much he loves him, etc. He loves the girls. There would be lots of hugs and kisses (I am getting teary eyed right now... shucks!!) He will do it his way, his own time. He gave them “going away” presents right. He was there to help them pack. I am not sure if the others (any of the gang) did their share to help. Brian was there to visit Gus one time, but I am not sure if he helped out. Anyway, you can actually ignore my ramblings now…

Plus, he did need to say goodbye to Daphne and his mother but still leave time for hot!farewell!sex with Brian before leaving for NY.

I totally agree again! LOL!

I don't think Brian asked him to stay. I think it was one of those things Justin decided.

They are able to read each other that well. Again.. agree! Wow, I am in a very agreeable mode today LOL. Just like when he tried to help patch things up between Brian and Michael, Justin is sensitive to Brian like that. “He misses him”. Just like the decision not to tell Brian about what he did with Kip. When they did the fundraising for the concerned citizens.. I am not sure I am making sense right now *toink* He sort of know when to be quiet and just stay in the background. SUN now… or else these ramblings will not stop.

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circadia
2009-03-17 11:20 am UTC (link)

I believe he would have discussed with them, how to maintain contact and update each other.Maybe, he would have played with him before saying his goodbye, reminded him to not forget him, tell him how much he loves him, etc.
There would be lots of hugs and kisses He will do it his way, his own time. He gave them “going away” presents right. He was there to help them pack.

Yes yes yes. I'm going to agree with your agreement :)
I can see this all. There's no way he would have let them leave with out saying his goodbyes. Even Justin mentions, he was there the night Gus was born; he named him. He loves that family too much to let them take off without so much as a goodbye.

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