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Dr. Spencer Reid ([info]thisiscalm) wrote in [info]marinanova,
@ 2017-01-26 00:15:00

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Entry tags:aigis, jezebel mephistopheles, malcolm reynolds, pavel chekov (au), peter parker (stnas), spencer reid, tieria erde, ton phanan

412 - closed video
[ VIDEO - FILTERED AWAY FROM JACK HARKNESS, IANTO JONES, KITTY PRYDE THE OLDER ]

[ Reid has spent some time carefully setting up the encryption, knowing fully well that his attempts to keep this discussion away from from the people that might take it the wrong way may result in them taking it the wrong way, should they ever find out. This is the best way he can think of to discuss this though, as a community and after yesterdays events he feels a stronger need to rally than ever before. 

He's in full on Serious Mode when he clicks on the feed, voice even and confident, perhaps more so than most are used to seeing him. ]


Good afternoon. For those of you who don't know me, my name is Spencer Reid. I'm a member of the Behaviour Analysis Unit of the FBI back home — law enforcement. I used to be part of the Investigative Team- [ Pretty much co-founded it back on day 150. ] - but quit the Force some time ago... and that leads us to what I want to discuss.

As some of you might know, the Defence Force has been controversial for longer than we've been in this prison. I feel, and I doubt I'm alone in this feeling, that it has outgrown its original purpose. There aren't that many of us left, certainly not enough to warrant an internal police force like this. Concerns have been brought up in the past that the Force acts without taking into account the wishes of the rest of the population, with regards to escape plans as well as punishments of our fellow inmates.

This is why I'm addressing you — I want to hear your opinions on the current state of the Defence Force. What is your impression? And, in a broader sense, what do you feel we as a community should do to better protect and care for each other?

Oh, and - please be discreet. I'm not looking to cause trouble with the current leaders of the Force, but I also don't wish to provoke them with this discussion. For the time being, please keep this between us.

[ Video - Chekov ]

Chekov - a word?

[ Video - Karev ]

Hey, uhm... Alex? Can I talk to you?



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[info]cptn_tightpants
2017-01-25 06:35 pm UTC (link)
Ain't a fan of the Force, but I ain't a fan of anything that seems like a central government. Or law enforcement. That's not to say I don't like the people on the Force. But I ain't plannin' on joining. I can play the Big Damn Hero anytime I want.

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[info]thisiscalm
2017-01-27 05:03 am UTC (link)
That's fair. Would you be more interested in something that would include all of us, based on voluntary participation and without a joining process?

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[info]cptn_tightpants
2017-01-27 09:12 pm UTC (link)
I'm more interested in anarchy if you really want to get down to it.

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[info]thisiscalm
2017-01-28 04:53 pm UTC (link)
Anarchy? I take it you're not very interested in escaping, then.

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Bah. I've written this tag about fifty times with different thoughts from Mal. - [info]cptn_tightpants, 2017-02-04 05:13 am UTC
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[info]candothat
2017-01-25 10:55 pm UTC (link)
[Chekov isn't particularly comfortable with things that involve questioning organizations that he's a part of or the words please be discreet, so he replies with some apprehension.]

Yes, Doctor?

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[info]thisiscalm
2017-01-26 06:43 pm UTC (link)
[ If an organisation can't be critiqued, it's not a good organisation. At least, that's what Reid thinks. You don't improve by being complacent.

This, however, is a personal call. ]


I, uhm. I think it's time we clear the air a bit. [ And his throat. ] About Kitty.

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[info]candothat
2017-01-26 10:47 pm UTC (link)
[Actually, maybe talking about the Force would be better.]

Ah. Yes, okay. What... er, what needs to be cleared?

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[info]orgia_mode
2017-01-26 10:51 am UTC (link)
[There's something a little different about Aigis. She looks more serious, more composed, less clueless than usual. Yesterday was good for her, and even if those twenty years are gone they've stuck with her. She remembers that maturity, that understanding of her emotions and it seems like a lot of that growth has stayed with her. She doesn't look like a naive little robot girl right now; she looks like a young woman ready and very capable of helping here, of taking that leadership role she maybe always had the ability to deep down inside.]

I know I have given you my opinion on this before, and it has not changed. I believe relying on the Defense Force holds us back. It is not equipped to protect us the way people expect it to, and that expectation is what has led to many people being hurt. We need to strengthen ourselves and learn to protect ourselves when needed. It is not a bad thing to rely on friends or each other but I do not believe the Defense Force succeeds in that goal. I will support you in any plans you may make on this issue going forward.

[More gently] And I am glad you are feeling better.

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[info]thisiscalm
2017-01-27 05:06 am UTC (link)
[ He notices that and for a moment he wonders if she's still stuck in the future, if she woke up the same today. It's impressive and welcome nonetheless. ]

Thanks. I'm, uh. I'm still gauging interest. I can't do much if most prisoners are confident in the current system.

[ He hesitates, clearing his throat. ]

Yeah. I'm trying not to think about that.

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[info]orgia_mode
2017-01-27 08:20 am UTC (link)
[It was just that last little push she needed. She was already close to being there after her final adventure at home before coming here. It feels good, like she's finally found that answer she was looking for.]

Understandable. Please let me know what their responses are. If we are the only ones with concerns perhaps we will simply have to live with them, but if others share them surelynsomething should be done.

[She nods in understanding.]

The fact that you seem better is enough for me, then.

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[info]betrothell
2017-01-29 04:13 am UTC (link)
I haven't been here for long but I have heard of some of the punishments that were given out and I strongly think that... they were exceptionally cruel.

[Not naming names, not naming names.] And I'm Satan's freaking daughter. I should know.

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[info]thisiscalm
2017-01-30 05:21 pm UTC (link)
It's- definitely something that could've been discussed with the entire population of the dome. [ He wasn't involved in all that so he's trying to be careful about judgment. ] Do you have any thoughts on how you'd like things to be run here?

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[info]betrothell
2017-02-02 07:03 am UTC (link)
I don't know, Hell was kind of ruled by my Dad with a flaming, fiery fist. If you opposed him, you suffered. I'm kinda anti-that in general.

But I don't know, most of the people here are mortal. Mortals like to hurt each other, that's been happening since the start of time. So they probably need to be governed in some way to keep the peace, but I don't know what works best.

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[info]wraith_7
2017-01-29 01:25 pm UTC (link)
[He's not thrilled about what he's saying but Reid is is friend and he's never that he takes him down off a roof once so he'll hear him out and not share this with Kitty.] It sounds like you've already got a few suggestions for changes or younwouldnt be making this call. Mind if I ask what they are?

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[info]thisiscalm
2017-01-30 05:23 pm UTC (link)
[ Different times, huh? Seeing as they still haven't really found their way back to the friend thing after the breakup. Feels like forever ago that they sat on rooftops, not killing themselves. ]

I have some ideas... most of all I'm interested in hearing what other people think. A lot has changed since I arrived nine months ago and I'm not so sure the Defence Force has changed with them as much as it could.

[ Trying to be diplomatic - he has some concrete ideas but he doesn't want to lay it all out there before other people have spoken. ]

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[info]wraith_7
2017-01-30 06:09 pm UTC (link)
[He regrets that, since he's pretty sure he's the one who let their friendship fade. So he sounds serious but not accusatory as he asks his next question.]

Alright, set honesty to on. Does the way things went with Kitty have any influence on this? Any at all? Because if it's personal I don't want to get involved. But if you're really trying to change things because you objectively feel it needs to happen and it's the right thing to do then I'll give you my input and try to help. Deal?

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[info]trial_by_veda
2017-01-30 09:59 am UTC (link)
[Tieria was curious, but wary. The Defense Force had become something of a replacement in his mind for Celestial Being. Disbanding it meant potentially losing a purpose, and that didn't sit well with him at all.]

And what would you propose instead?

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[info]thisiscalm
2017-01-30 05:25 pm UTC (link)
[ Tieria has been here even longer than he has, and although they've talked maybe a handful of times Reid respects his input in this. He knows how it used to be. ]

Something... more inclusive. Differently structured, less relying on set positions and members. It's not so much about what's being done as how it's done.

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[info]trial_by_veda
2017-01-30 10:37 pm UTC (link)
Something less militaristic, and more... member oriented?

[Was he getting that right?]

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[info]evilspawn
2017-02-02 06:43 am UTC (link)
[Alex's voice has a hoarseness to it, but from what is questionable.] Yeah?

Is it about the shitshow we all just went through?

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[info]thisiscalm
2017-02-02 11:56 pm UTC (link)
Yeah... that. [ Can you hear the pent up stress in his voice? ] What do you remember?

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[info]evilspawn
2017-02-03 07:20 am UTC (link)
Too much. [He sounds as miserable as he feels.]

My life went to shit, how 'bout yours? [He thinks he remembers. Parts. The parts not clouded by his own fuckups.]

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[info]webcrawler
2017-02-02 09:35 pm UTC (link)
I can't say I'm not bad at being someone who jumps in to help but I can say that I don't think there's a need for a regulated, Avengers-Style den here anymore. If the need arises, assemble! But for every day ins and outs, a neighborhood watch'd suffice? I do that myself, so can they if they need a routine...

Decisions are the tough thing, though. Are we talking our own little council, people elected for those tough moments? Or are we thinking more of a town meeting anytime something comes up and putting the vote to solutions.

Those are the only two options I can see replacing the current system for positive change. One elected leader's not enough for a different view point and all in all, the DF doesn't need to be gone it just needs to... be reevaluated.

[...] Given a little less power, or to become less...

How do I say this? Dominating?

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[info]thisiscalm
2017-02-03 10:28 am UTC (link)
I was thinking more of a town meeting. According to my estimates, there's no more than fifty of us currently in the dome and the population hasn't increased all that drastically in a while now. Maybe someone can be appointed as moderator but I doubt we'd need more organisation than that at this point.

The Defence Force used to be, ah. Controversial. It was the only way to get access to weaponry and information and in some ways, I feel like that's still the case. It's outdated, in its current form. It doesn't help that a hierarchal structure doesn't allow for much flexibility — people do what they think is best either way, it seems, and as soon as one or both of the leaders are incapacitated from whatever strange things happen here, the entire structure falls.

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[info]webcrawler
2017-02-04 08:01 am UTC (link)
So we could use a web instead of two separate pillars holding us up, huh.

People come together, make choices together, support one another by taking the load off any areas that need relief when they need the relief. Nothing over anyone else's head, a level playing field. I like it but then again, I'm a spider making spider analogies.

It does have the issue of accountability to consider. People like a leader because if something goes wrong, they can blame the leader too. Not that I think it might be a huge issue, making people accountable for their own decisions here, that's the price of having a vote in something. People can always abstain on harder issues, if we do collective choices...

[...] Great power, great responsibility, better shared by all than put on one person's shoulders.

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