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Lacus Clyne ([info]fields_of_hope) wrote in [info]marinanova,
@ 2012-07-02 20:02:00

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Entry tags:angel(us), arianna vard, axel, buffy summers, ciaphas cain, dick grayson (young justice), helix wamtani, kira yamato, kitty pryde (aoa), lacus clyne, momo mizrahi, naoto fuyumine, prospitian monarch, revive revival, richie foley, sakura kinomoto, sasha, sougo okita, spencer reid, stephanie brown, tieria erde, tyki mikk, zatanna zatara, zelgadis greywars

[video | open] Defense Force... announcement thing.
Good day, Marina-- or, I suppose, Marina Nova. I hope everyone is adjusting as well as can be expected. We've suffered some tremendous losses [herself very much included,] but I am certain we will be able to manage things as well as possible.

With regards to the Defense Force -- with Suzaku Kururugi among those lost, and the Wardens confirming for me that weapons and life sign monitoring are no longer available -- I would like to make a proposal. [and she's going to make it openly, so anyone can weigh in... trolls she can handle, and it's worth the risk to give everyone a chance to speak.]

Although I believed strongly in Suzaku and what he did with the Force, there was something troubling me. In some cases, members' primary motivation for joining was to obtain a weapon. And while I know for a fact that Suzaku would not admit anyone who was not suitable, it nonetheless seems as though such a team should have members whose primary reason for joining is belief in its purpose. And further, I believe that the invasion of privacy that the former Defense Force utilized for monitoring life signs made inmates uneasy. I know I had my own questions about such methodology, but it was not my team and thus not my place to debate what was in place.

However, now that many things have begun anew, I am wondering if there are those among us who believe strongly enough in protecting others that they would agree to do so without the promise of a weapon, or any such personal gain. A new leader would need to be elected, and I would be happy to oversee the process if the potential members would like. Any and all proposals will be considered.

With regards to weaponry and special abilities for those who would use them in defense of themselves or others, that is a battle that I will continue to fight with the Wardens, regardless of whether there is a formal Defense Force. I believe in our members, and all of you will have my full support regardless of the status of the organization as a whole.


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[info]guesstheskittle
2012-07-04 01:10 am UTC (link)
I would like to offer my assistance to prevent hacking of the system again if it is needed.

[He's put so much into it, he kind of wants to keep it going]

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[info]fields_of_hope
2012-07-04 07:41 pm UTC (link)
[She's not quite sure how to respond, but whether to admit Revive Revival is a question for their new leader, when they are found.]

I appreciate the offer, Revive.

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[info]guesstheskittle
2012-07-04 09:21 pm UTC (link)
[He wouldn't be surprised if they don't let him, but he thought he'd try]

There are many who are interested in continuing the Defense Force?

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[info]fields_of_hope
2012-07-04 10:11 pm UTC (link)
All who you have heard answering. So yes, there are many.

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[info]guesstheskittle
2012-07-04 10:44 pm UTC (link)
Good to hear. Good that people don't want to give that job up just because this change.

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[info]fields_of_hope
2012-07-04 10:47 pm UTC (link)
Some people, at least. I'm sure there will be those that do. But the organization will be strong, regardless.

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[info]guesstheskittle
2012-07-05 12:09 pm UTC (link)
Well, if you are helping with it, I couldn't see how it wouldn't be.

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[info]fields_of_hope
2012-07-05 09:27 pm UTC (link)
Oh? I was under the impression that you might be uncomfortable working with me.

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Sorry, I fail
[info]guesstheskittle
2012-07-06 01:21 am UTC (link)
Really? What gave you that impression?

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/hug
[info]fields_of_hope
2012-07-06 01:54 am UTC (link)
Because of Neil, and because I kept Hiling off the Force before. [simply]

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[info]guesstheskittle
2012-07-06 02:22 am UTC (link)
The issue I had was with him, not you. I tried to be civil with him, but he didn't want to listen. As for Hiling, she caused her own problems and it was not something that I supported.

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[info]fields_of_hope
2012-07-06 02:26 am UTC (link)
Mm. [Not agreeing or disagreeing about that assessment, just taking it in.]

He's no longer here.

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[info]guesstheskittle
2012-07-06 12:36 pm UTC (link)
Oh... I'm sure you will miss him. [He can't say that he will because he won't]

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(no subject) - [info]fields_of_hope, 2012-07-07 10:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]guesstheskittle, 2012-07-08 12:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]fields_of_hope, 2012-07-08 12:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]guesstheskittle, 2012-07-08 01:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]fields_of_hope, 2012-07-09 04:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]guesstheskittle, 2012-07-09 05:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]fields_of_hope, 2012-07-10 01:59 am UTC
hope this is okay?
[info]trial_by_veda
2012-07-06 03:59 am UTC (link)
[Tieria had been listening, partially because he was worried about Neil's disappearance and the effect it might have on others, partially because the DF was something still important to him and it would keep his mind off that very other thing.]

Do you really think we will have that kind of ability here? Even if we are granted the ability to use our Quantum Brainwaves again by these Wardens, [He'd noticed they were missing again. Was it the ankle monitor or something else?] we cannot be certain they will be as willing to grant us the ability to watch the system as before with Sentience or even Acumen. These are different AI.

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[info]guesstheskittle
2012-07-06 12:40 pm UTC (link)
I don't know that they will, but I thought that I would make the offer in case. There are more hackers here than when we first started and it could be beneficial.

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[info]trial_by_veda
2012-07-07 03:52 am UTC (link)
Perhaps. However, we should be careful not to expect too much too quickly. I would like to know more about these new Wardens first before setting up and sort of trust between us and them.

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[info]guesstheskittle
2012-07-07 03:01 pm UTC (link)
I agree. I would like to know more about them as well. But it would be beneficial.

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[info]trial_by_veda
2012-07-08 03:56 am UTC (link)
To what end? I am not certain just how much trust we can gain from them. I do not know what kind of developmental capabilities these particular systems have compared to Sentience and Acumen.

[It irked him to admit he didn't know something, but he was pretty sure no one else did, either.]

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[info]guesstheskittle
2012-07-08 08:35 pm UTC (link)
True, but there is really only one way to find out.

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[info]trial_by_veda
2012-07-09 03:22 am UTC (link)
Perhaps. Though, I think the point here was the fact that our previous association with the Warden made the Force somewhat untrustworthy among other inmates.

[Tieria certainly could count himself in that group. Watching the Force from the inside was one of the reasons he'd joined.]

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[info]guesstheskittle
2012-07-09 05:41 pm UTC (link)
Hmm... I suppose. But does anyone actually trust the warden?

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[info]trial_by_veda
2012-07-09 07:01 pm UTC (link)
Most do not. Some trusted Sentience. No one knows these two. [So, not really. Tieria didn't, at least.]

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[info]guesstheskittle
2012-07-10 12:43 am UTC (link)
True, but if perhaps working with them would give us a chance to figure out more of what they think.

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[info]trial_by_veda
2012-07-11 03:59 am UTC (link)
If they are willing to share, yes. [Tieria was willing to concede that point.]

Hopefully, they will see this organization in a good light.

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[info]guesstheskittle
2012-07-11 08:20 pm UTC (link)
We can only hope. It also depends on what the new leader of the Defense Force decides in terms of network security and also if the wardens would allow that.

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(no subject) - [info]trial_by_veda, 2012-07-15 11:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]guesstheskittle, 2012-07-16 01:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]trial_by_veda, 2012-07-17 05:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]guesstheskittle, 2012-07-18 02:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]trial_by_veda, 2012-07-23 06:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]guesstheskittle, 2012-07-23 02:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]trial_by_veda, 2012-08-02 02:57 am UTC

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