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adarkflash (adarkflash) wrote in doors,
@ 2013-03-08 10:43:00

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catwoman, flash thompson

[Private to Wren M H.]

MK overdosed. Will live. Long term damage unknown. Hope to talk her into rehab once she feels better. Already discussed it. Should work this time. Want to know if you'd visit her?

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	Wren H/Adam W laminette 2013-03-08 06:50 pm UTC (link)
	What? ~~Luke said she was~~ Once she feels better? Then long-term damage isn't going to be bad, right? If you think she's going to feel better? [...] YES. Where am I going? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W adarkflash 2013-03-08 06:57 pm UTC (link)
	Overdose and the trauma she experienced through Marvel door not promising. Don't know for sure. Most likely will be put on medication. Physically will be fine. Mentally, [...] unclear. Spring Valley Hospital. Wait until this weekend? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W laminette 2013-03-08 07:00 pm UTC (link)
	What trauma? And what are they saying about her mental state? Be honest, Adam. [...] Okay. Why? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W adarkflash 2013-03-08 07:09 pm UTC (link)
	Never spoke to her while she was through the door? Needs time. Been through enough. Will think you're there to nag. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W laminette 2013-03-08 07:11 pm UTC (link)
	No. Luke did. [...] So she's awake and talking? If she's going to think that, maybe I shouldn't go at all. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W adarkflash 2013-03-08 07:12 pm UTC (link)
	What did she tell him? Not yet. Will be soon. Whole point of visiting is to talk to her, Wren. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W laminette 2013-03-08 07:16 pm UTC (link)
	Nothing worrisome. He said she was saying that normal stuff about people not wanting to be bothered by her, but we thought she'd be okay since she was a teenager and with you. Luke said she was with you. Are you sure she will be? Or are you just hoping, Adam? [...] Okay. I just don't want to make it worse. What happened? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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adarkflash
2013-03-08 07:25 pm UTC (link)

Didn't tell Luke anything important. Not surprising.

[...] Don't know if rehab will work. MK uses and cuts to forget terrible things that have happened to her. To forget Seattle. Once those are taken away from her, don't know what's left.

My alter has the power to turn into a monster through a super solider suit. A monster that looks a like a black, goop shadow. Usually can use monster for good and is effective vigilante, so I thought I could do it. Went to see her in suit. She offered me a drink and we had a fight. [...] Almost killed her. Alter had to take over my brain to fix it. Think she was still traumatized. Later, she overdosed while touching the suit.

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laminette
2013-03-08 07:41 pm UTC (link)

But you're sure she'll wake up?

What's left is working through what happened to her. Letting her scream and cry and be afraid whenever you touch her, and helping her get through it instead of burying it in booze and blades. It's not going to be easy, Adam. And if you're there for her at the beginning, you need to stay there for her. Getting over stuff like that is pretty terrible, but she'll just end up back here again if she doesn't deal with it. Ignoring it and not nagging isn't going to help her anymore.

[...] Are you okay?

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	Re: Wren H/Adam W adarkflash 2013-03-08 07:50 pm UTC (link)
	Positive. Didn't think it would be this complicated a year ago. Know the right thing to do. Don't know if I can do it. Want to. Don't know, though. No. Just want to go back to being a doctor. Alone. In Vegas. Before everyone else showed up. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W laminette 2013-03-08 07:53 pm UTC (link)
	Okay. Then it'll be okay. We'll help, Adam. Okay? If it gets to be too much, we'll help. [...] Why don't you know if you can do it? You wouldn't be happy. Going back to being alone after you love someone, it's hard. It seems like it would be better, safe, and like things would stop hurting, but it's not true. It's worse. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W adarkflash 2013-03-08 08:04 pm UTC (link)
	Every time we tried to help before she pushed us away. Not strong enough to take constant fighting. Rejection. She told me I may not even know her anymore. Possible. Haven't seen the real MK in a long time. Don't believe it. Want the simplicity. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W laminette 2013-03-08 08:13 pm UTC (link)
	She's going to push, Adam. She doesn't want to have to feel all those things. We need to not let her push. It might be uncomfortable, but isn't it worth it to get her back? The real her, I mean. You'd be lonely. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W adarkflash 2013-03-08 08:24 pm UTC (link)
	What if I never knew the real her? Broken when she came to Vegas. Unhealed. Always thought I was on the same level as her drinking. Not healing, just temporary relief. Have my patients. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W laminette 2013-03-08 08:26 pm UTC (link)
	She's always been different here. But back in Seattle, before things went wrong, she was better. At first, she was scared of friends and being in love, but she settled in eventually, and she was happy. You knew her then, Adam. You know what's she's really like. No you don't. They aren't really yours. They belong to other people. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W adarkflash 2013-03-08 09:14 pm UTC (link)
	Hope you're right. Hard to see lately. Felt like I haven't spoken to her in a long time. Wish human interaction alone was enough. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W laminette 2013-03-08 09:16 pm UTC (link)
	Have you told her that? It might help. She'd do pretty much anything to get you back in her life, Adam. You can have more than that. It's just going to be a little hard at first. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W adarkflash 2013-03-08 09:26 pm UTC (link)
	Could try. Might make her mad. Make it look so easy. Know that? Drives her crazy. Me, too. Love used to be easy for us. I'd look the other way and she wouldn't get too bad. Don't know if love is supposed to be a fight like that. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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laminette
2013-03-08 09:34 pm UTC (link)

Not if you say it like that, like you want to talk to her again.

Love is always a fight. It might look easy from the outside, but it never is. Ask Luke. He screams and curses and loses his temper. I drive him insane. We both get to the point where we aren't talking and want to scream. But we fix it. We work at it every day. We used to be really terrible at talking. We wouldn't do it, and it would be like a wound that festered and just got worse and worse and worse, until it got so bad that I left and ruined both of our lives for years. Now, we make ourselves talk, even when we don't want to. We fight it out. He's better at pushing for that than me. But it isn't easy, Adam. It's messy, but it's worth it.

I know you love MK.

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	Re: Wren H/Adam W adarkflash 2013-03-09 07:34 am UTC (link)
	Will try. Don't understand how that much fighting is worth it. Need companionship? Need to belong to someone? Is it only loneliness? All not good reasons to be in a relationship. Thought it was about acceptance. About having someone who believes in you. None of that is true. Hate it, though. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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laminette
2013-03-09 08:05 am UTC (link)

It's not about needing companionship, or about belonging, or even about loneliness. It's about making each other better, I think. At least for us. We're better together than we are apart. And it's a lot of work, but being apart isn't really living, not for me. And I know that's not healthy, before you say so.

You hate it because it hurts, not because you hate loving her.

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	Re: Wren H/Adam W adarkflash 2013-03-09 09:31 am UTC (link)
	Shouldn't be like that. Should make each other better, but relying is going to hurt you in the end. Tired of the hurt. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W laminette 2013-03-09 09:39 am UTC (link)
	It won't, because Luke isn't going anywhere, and neither am I. We learned that lesson already. You and MK just aren't there yet. But I've watched you both fight and misunderstand each other for a year now, and however bad it is when you're together, it's so much worse when you're apart. She'll get help, and the hurt will stop. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W adarkflash 2013-03-09 09:47 am UTC (link)
	Going to be miserable for a long time, is what you're saying. Might get better, but miserable no matter what. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W laminette 2013-03-09 09:56 am UTC (link)
	Right now, everything is going to be miserable for everyone. Are you really in a better place without her? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W adarkflash 2013-03-09 09:57 am UTC (link)
	No, but could be. Could meet someone else. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W laminette 2013-03-09 10:00 am UTC (link)
	You really think so? Because I think you're both ruined for anyone but each other. I kind of know what that looks like. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W adarkflash 2013-03-09 10:04 am UTC (link)
	Very funny. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W laminette 2013-03-09 10:10 am UTC (link)
	I don't actually have a sense of humor. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W adarkflash 2013-03-09 11:21 am UTC (link)
	Neither do I. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W laminette 2013-03-09 11:30 am UTC (link)
	Just think about it, okay? And I'll come by this weekend. If anything changes with her status, call me. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W adarkflash 2013-03-09 11:41 am UTC (link)
	I will. Thank you. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Wren H/Adam W laminette 2013-03-09 11:41 am UTC (link)
	Don't thank me. We're all in this together. (Reply to this) (Parent)