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Fingolfin | Ñolofinwë Aracáno ([info]nolofinwe) wrote in [info]compass_network,
@ 2013-06-30 18:50:00

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I must say that I am glad that Vinyamar is on the sea, as these hot days set in.

And I should like to say again that all but the dragonriders and their beasts are free to use the beaches around Vinyamar as it pleases them. Please, keep yourselves cool. Mortal bodies are so weak.



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[info]turukano
2013-07-01 04:52 am UTC (link)
I'll certainly take your words into consideration. I don't mean to offend anyone either. But often it's hard to know what to say.

There are many.. sensitivities I and my kin are unfamiliar with.

I do not speak for my family, as it were, but I will share the message with them as I can.

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[info]like_a_hawk
2013-07-01 05:00 am UTC (link)
Thank you.

And I realize that some of the issue may be our part, humans have been around about 140,000 years now and since day one we've had a tendency to isolate and hate those we don't look or act like. They call it discrimination and I think we've maybe become sensitive to it because It's been such a major part of our culture for many hundreds of years. And discrimination comes down, most often, to things we have no choice of, the color of our skin or they type of person we love so when we feel like we're being looked down on for something we have no choice or control over, there's a very real and very strong emotional response. So I apologize if maybe we've made the wrong conclusions too.

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[info]turukano
2013-07-01 05:05 am UTC (link)
Valar, we have 140,000 years of history to catch up with.

Might you find it in your spirits to forgive us our ways until we do learn these things. The world is young still where we are from. I saw the first rise of the Sun and Moon but five hundred years ago.

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[info]like_a_hawk
2013-07-01 05:13 am UTC (link)
That may be the toughest issue to overcome, we all come from very different places with different histories and views on the world, being shoved together like this ain't gonna be easy for anyone. Hell I'm only from 30 years behind most of the people here and there are still massive culture differences to get used to.

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[info]turukano
2013-07-01 05:17 am UTC (link)
Tolerance, I think, is a hard thing to find and live with. And that is our biggest struggle. We cannot expect each other to change overnight. Or even in a year. Or ten years.

Thirty years is not long in our eyes. We come of age at fifty. Half the life of some Men.

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[info]like_a_hawk
2013-07-01 05:29 am UTC (link)
And I think that's why it's easier for us to adjust. When your lives are shorter, things happen faster, culture changes with every generation so when things change so dramatically after ten or fifteen years you learn to just take things as they are and move on. If it'a not an idea your kin is used to I can understand it might be harder.

It's not unheard of for men to look at their world and change their opinions over time, sometimes only a few months or a year, and certainly in ten.

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[info]turukano
2013-07-01 05:34 am UTC (link)
It's very difficult. You're right, the lives of Men do change quickly where elves do not. We learn of something about you, and before we've had time to think on it properly and accept it, it changes again. We are in a constant cycle of renewal with our understandings and they never settle quickly.

And we are stubborn, the elves. I say that freely and with true knowledge. But when you live a certain way for so long it's hard to change.

The world passes us by.

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[info]like_a_hawk
2013-07-01 05:39 am UTC (link)
We can be stubborn too but I think over the decades and millennia we've learned, as a culture, to deal with that. I think as long as there is mutual effort to understand each other we may be able to have an easier time with each other.

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[info]turukano
2013-07-01 05:42 am UTC (link)
That is my hope.

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[info]like_a_hawk
2013-07-01 06:15 am UTC (link)
Mine too.

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