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Fingolfin | Ñolofinwë Aracáno ([info]nolofinwe) wrote in [info]compass_network,
@ 2013-06-30 18:50:00

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Entry tags:!open, maryanne walker (oe), ~clint barton (comic)

I must say that I am glad that Vinyamar is on the sea, as these hot days set in.

And I should like to say again that all but the dragonriders and their beasts are free to use the beaches around Vinyamar as it pleases them. Please, keep yourselves cool. Mortal bodies are so weak.



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[info]maryanne_walker
2013-07-01 04:46 am UTC (link)
Because what if I'm wrong? And do you know what an immortality complex does to a person? It's better for me to err on the 'I could die' side of things, than to err on the 'I might not die' do something rather stupid that would get me killed.

In this case he might as well be calling someone fat. If someone called you pointy ear wouldn't you be offended? I would never dream of offending you like that. I'm just saying for instance. And often mortals don't like to be reminded that they are in fact mortal. It's depressing.

The difference there is that the Rohirrim and Gondorians are still human.

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[info]turukano
2013-07-01 04:50 am UTC (link)
No, I'm afraid I don't. My grandson had a choice, between immortality and mortality.

And no, I have pointy ears. It's a fact, and nothing will change that. I don't see the cause of being upset by someone pointing out the obvious. I'm not ashamed of having pointed ears. In fact, I rather like them. Though my grandson had muted tips on his ears and they were odd to see at first. But also the cause of much adoration when he was born.

I'm getting off track, apologies.

Do you know many elves envy a mortal's ability to die?

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[info]maryanne_walker
2013-07-01 05:21 am UTC (link)
It does bad things for anything that isn't really immortal. A lot of tyrants thought themselves immortal, for instance.

Turgon, I'm beginning to wonder if anything would offend you. Not that I want to try. Your grandson's ears were adorable though.

Oh sugar, I understand, I'm southern, wandering off on tangents is almost a bred in trait.

I don't, besides what I read in books when I was young, I had no experience with elves. The only experience I've has been here. I can't say it's been a good experience, save for the three exceptions that go by the names of Turgon, Elenwe and Fingon.

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[info]turukano
2013-07-01 05:26 am UTC (link)
My brother has his moments.

I didn't know many Men before coming here either. I knew but three. Húrin and his brother Huor, I had them in Gondolin for a single solar year before they.. died. And then Tuor the son of Huor came into my city.

Three Men.

I admit to not understanding any of the workings of Men. I can only imagine my mother's confusion. My daughter's. And she married Tuor. Nyara is very much the same. And the Lady Nerdanel has recently arrived.

We have not gotten a fair impression of humans either.

Speaking of which.

Is using the term of 'human' more or less offensive as using 'mortal' as it signifies essentially the same thing?

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[info]maryanne_walker
2013-07-01 06:01 am UTC (link)
When you're talking to a human, probably not. When you're talking to something that isn't human it could go a few different ways: One they are highly flattered that they come off as at least appearing to be human, two it reminds them of the fact that they aren't human and it sends them into a spiral of depression, or it offends them, because they aren't human and they find a great deal of pride in what they actually are.

It's better to go with names, to be honest.

But with you and Elenwe, it's like the difference isn't there. Between us, I mean. I feel like I can talk to you as if we've known each other all our lives. Same goes with your wife. I mean I was talking shampoo with her the other day. Fingon... he comes off as if he could find beauty in almost anything.

The way the others treat everyone else... It rubs such a sore spot on me that I can't get beyond it and I can't see the want to get to know them individually.

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[info]turukano
2013-07-01 06:16 am UTC (link)
I have a good memory, but the details of day to day lives slip by me. I cannot recall what I ate yesterday, only that I did indeed eat. I cannot recall the five hundredth year I was married to my wife, but I recall the happiness of the years within. Remembering names is difficult for me as such.

I fear I would offend someone by asking their name again and again. We speak frequently, you and I, that your name is mostly cemented inside my head. But in a hundred years I don't know that I'll remember it, only that I had known a woman such as yourself. Such is the fate of the long lived.

And he does. That's the spirit of my brother. He has an unfailing faith that things will work out as they should in the end.

But if I may offer insight into my parents and Lord Maedhros. You may simply forget that Lord Maedhros exists, as he has forgotten the presence of humans on this island and finds you no more significant to his life than a fly. He is old, and tired and those of us who know him and his story respect his distance. And my parents? They are nobility to their bones. My father will not bother with people who are discourteous and lack manners. Why would he? There is no point in his eyes arguing with people who only want to argue.

Just as you desire to forget him, he has written you off as well. It's a common thing, I think, among any group of people.

My mother is Noldor, and I know that doesn't mean anything to the humans on this island. But their spirits burn with a passion that no others can possibly understand or come close to. That is why she is quick to anger. She and Lord Maedhros have the most pride. The rest of us are mixed with Vanyarin blood, and it cools our tempers before anything.

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[info]maryanne_walker
2013-07-01 07:36 am UTC (link)
I'm cursed with a photographic memory. I could tell you exactly what I did on this day, last year. And probably the year before. I remember names and faces that go back... Two decades. I could tell you the nurses names that were there when I woke up, and what they lo If not longer. But I know not everybody is like that.

Most of mankind, you know that word works better than human does... Where was I, Oh, most of mankind are like that. And we understand that about each other. Mostly with the explanation of 'I'm horrible with names...'

I almost want to ask what you'd remember about me. But I'm afraid to.

Fingon's beautiful that way, you know? I wish I could see things like that. But I never got the chance, not even as a child.

See the problem with that is one day he's going to need something from us. And what's going to stick in our head? He was too damn 'noble' to see the world around him from the top of his high horse. The majority of us here in the city don't have to deal with any sort of nobility. Everybody is at the same level, because status, whatever it was isn't going to get anyone anywhere here. Because there's no positions for people who sit on their butts all day and make faces at everyone else.

We have our warriors. We have everything we need here in the city. What we don't have, what we might need, a door happens to show up and we can go and find it.

And Maedhros has some serious brownie points, in my book. Even with the act that he's marked out more than half of the population. I see how he is with Briseis in the bakery. He's come to the meetings we hold. There are things he's done that undoes the attitude. And there's no missing the love Fingon has for him. And he for him. Maedhros is not the same as he was when he first got here.

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