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Tweak says, "Red pill or blue?"

Turgon the Wise | Sarafinwë Turukáno (turukano) wrote in compass_network,
@ 2013-05-16 12:30:00

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!open, ~micha delmare

I am finding the differences between the treatment of men and women far more disturbing than I ever thought they would be. When I was a woman, I think that I was too used to the way I was treated to see clearly how internalized such things could be, and how deeply such things persist in our society.

So following from that thought, I should like to ask some questions. I think perhaps just one at a time, since there is much to think about and discuss about each.

So, to begin.

Would you consider a woman who works, of her own free will and with no pressure or compulsion, in a strip club to be equally respectable to, say, a teacher or a waitress? Please explain your answer either way.

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itarille
2013-05-16 05:22 pm UTC (link)

Why should a woman need a man to validate or reaffirm her idea of beauty? We are on no one else's imaginary pageant show. Their opinions ought not matter. And sexuality is a fluid thing; that I agree with. But taking your clothes off for men in a dingy back-lit room does not strike me as being particularly powerful, or in control.

It says to me 'my mind and my heart do not matter in this place, look at my body and the bodies of women as a thing for your entertainment.'

I should never like to or enjoy undressing for anyone but my husband.

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turukano
2013-05-16 05:29 pm UTC (link)

Aye, and your opinions are completely valid - for you.

We may not speak for other women, Itarillë. What they do, and what they enjoy is not for us to condemn. As long as it is their choice, and a choice made freely and without coercion, it is not our place to tell them that what they do is wrong. Their body is theirs as surely as your body is yours. And what may be right for you may not be so for them.

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itarille
2013-05-16 05:40 pm UTC (link)

Aye; I should never tell a woman or a man what she or he may or may not do. Though I might disagree with their practices, it is their life and.. their body.

I worry, I suppose, that it reaffirms to a man what he already believes - he has a right to women's bodies more than a woman does. Since there are women offering to entertain him with it. And so he thinks he has a right to other women as well.

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	turukano 2013-05-16 05:48 pm UTC (link)
	But is that not a problem with the man, and not the woman? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	itarille 2013-05-16 05:49 pm UTC (link)
	Valar. I had not thought of it that way... (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	turukano 2013-05-16 05:51 pm UTC (link)
	Indeed - a man's thoughts are his own problem. Not the woman's. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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