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Turgon the Wise | Sarafinwë Turukáno ([info]turukano) wrote in [info]compass_network,
@ 2013-05-05 01:40:00

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Entry tags:!open, maryanne walker (oe), ~john mitchell (oe), ~tony stark

Death touches this island in wicked ways. In too many ways, too frequently, really. And there is no service we might do for all those who fall, whether we know them or not.

But I thought it might.. be more equal and respectful to erect a stone wall and write the names of those who pass upon it. Each of them! Even if they are gone before now. And let there stand a permanent marker to their lives here. A collective marker, rather than individual stones. Are we not a community of misfits? Lost in the void. For though, when we die and leave this place, we are leaving behind a piece of ourselves. We have irrevocably touched each other in many ways by simply being here, and so we might honor those influences by remembering those who come and go.

And with such a wall we may let our names and theirs stand in testimony to the future inhabitants of this island. I am under no illusions and believe that one day all the original dwellers will be gone from this place. And who should remember us but the stones and the streams and the lonely streets?

Let us leave our legacy, if only in name, if not in deeds.



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[info]maryanne_walker
2013-05-06 07:51 am UTC (link)
Are you not reading what I've written? Why are you heart broken? Because he was here? Because he's not now? Are you fucking insane? I didn't say anywhere that he was dead. Just that he was here. Get your head out of your ass.

You can't erase my memory. And shame on you for not wanting him to be remembered.

Now you shut up. Because I'm tired of reading your selfish self pity.

Fucking elves

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Maryanne | Mitchell
[info]hamrammr
2013-05-06 09:52 am UTC (link)
Maryanne, that is a bit harsh. I know you only mean well and I know you have a good heart but calm down a bit. She thinks she just lost her son. Grief is a horrible thing. You don't think straight when you grieve.

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Maryanne | Mitchell
[info]maryanne_walker
2013-05-06 10:03 am UTC (link)
I know it, but goddamn it Mitchell, I don't lie for anyone. Anyone. I bothered to give a shit... I'm not sorry. She's being fucking ridiculous.

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Maryanne | Mitchell
[info]hamrammr
2013-05-06 10:08 am UTC (link)
But she doesn't know that. Her focus isn't on you, it's on her loss. She has no right to say you are heartless but she's grieving. You just told her something she didn't want to hear. I told people off for telling me that Annie was dead as well. It's not directed at you, it's directed at the loss she feels.

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Maryanne | Mitchell
[info]maryanne_walker
2013-05-06 06:19 pm UTC (link)
Whatever Mitchell.

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Maryanne | Mitchell
[info]hamrammr
2013-05-06 06:34 pm UTC (link)
You forgave me pretty easily.

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Maryanne | Mitchell
[info]maryanne_walker
2013-05-07 03:19 am UTC (link)
I love you, I don't want to have no love for them. Especially when they dishonor their son.

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Maryanne | Mitchell
[info]hamrammr
2013-05-07 06:27 am UTC (link)
They have their own ways to honor him. She seems very concerned and caring, he on the other hand - what a selfish bastard.

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Maryanne | Mitchell
[info]maryanne_walker
2013-05-07 06:50 am UTC (link)
I'm done with both of them Mitchell. I'm not going to worry myself with their self importance.

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Maryanne | Mitchell - [info]hamrammr, 2013-05-07 06:56 am UTC
Maryanne | Mitchell - [info]maryanne_walker, 2013-05-07 07:07 am UTC
Maryanne | Mitchell - [info]hamrammr, 2013-05-08 06:23 am UTC
Maryanne | Mitchell - [info]maryanne_walker, 2013-05-08 07:08 am UTC
Maryanne | Mitchell - [info]hamrammr, 2013-05-08 12:01 pm UTC
Maryanne | Mitchell - [info]maryanne_walker, 2013-05-08 10:22 pm UTC
Maryanne | Mitchell - [info]hamrammr, 2013-05-09 05:56 am UTC
Maryanne | Mitchell - [info]maryanne_walker, 2013-05-09 06:12 am UTC

[info]itarille
2013-05-06 10:40 am UTC (link)
I allowed my grief to overwhelm me, and in doing so I wrote cruel words that bear no reflection upon you, to my knowledge. For that I am sorry.

I am departing now from this conversation; I have no further words to share with you on the matter.

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[info]tuor
2013-05-06 02:19 pm UTC (link)
I love you. Come home, my dear.

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[info]itarille
2013-05-06 02:27 pm UTC (link)
Tuor.

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[info]tuor
2013-05-06 02:29 pm UTC (link)
Come to me. Let me hold you.

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[info]itarille
2013-05-06 02:36 pm UTC (link)
I am coming.

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[info]tuor
2013-05-06 03:01 pm UTC (link)
You put a child's name on a memorial wall and expect a mother not to be upset?

You say that you were a mother yourself, where is your compassion? Your empathy?

If you have words to say from this point on, address them to me. I will not let you verbally assault my wife in such a manner. I have been raised to treat ladies with respect, and I will do so with you as well, despite your words and actions. But I will not tolerate your cruelty towards her.

She grieves! Have you no heart?

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[info]maryanne_walker
2013-05-06 06:17 pm UTC (link)
I've put several children up there. They don't deserve to be remembered? They put up with the same garbage we do day in and day out. They're just a little more helpless than we are. And I can promise you they feel it a whole lot more than we do, because as adults we have thicker skin.

My empathy went out the fucking door when she called me heartless and cruel. While I was going out of my way to soothe her. I don't put up with that shit from people I know, you think I'm going to put up with that shit from someone I don't?

I would be more grieved to find out that my son was here and no one remembered him. No one could recall his face. His name!

Did either of you bother to count the names that I remember? They all had faces! Your son was just one! She calls me cruel? You call me heartless! Would you rather he be forgotten?

The majority of those people are dead. Do you even know what that means? It means, while I don't have to find and transport them alone anymore, I do get to be the one to do the job of cleaning them up. Making them presentable. And sometimes they're only in pieces when I get them. Because we don't have a mortician. I get to do that job, like so many jobs on my shoulders. I don't get to sit and just be a mother. To just treasure my friends and family.

And you two have the nerve to call me cruel. And heartless. You can blow it out your self important rearends.

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[info]tuor
2013-05-06 06:20 pm UTC (link)
Yes, I actually do know what it means to be dead. I'm human, just like you. And I never knew either of my parents because they died before I was born.

You need to consider that you told a mother that her son died.

I do not care to continue this conversation, but I do not want you talking to my wife ever again. If you have something to say to us, say it to me.

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[info]maryanne_walker
2013-05-06 06:34 pm UTC (link)
I didn't tell her he died. I told her that he was here! Do either of you read? Take meaning in the words that are actually WRITTEN!

I'd rather not talk to either of you again, if it's all the same. Thick skulled people are the worst kind to have any sort of conversation with. Because everything that's said doesn't sink in.

You want me to be cold hearted? His name will never cross my fingers or my lips again.

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[info]hamrammr
2013-05-06 07:25 pm UTC (link)
Hey, hey, hey! Again, she has every kind of compassion. Calm down. I know what grief does and I'm sorry for your loss. Don't make her sound like a monster, she's far from it. She only reacts this way because she cares and don't judge her for doing so.

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[info]tuor
2013-05-06 07:46 pm UTC (link)
My wife is weeping.

Who will take responsibility for that?

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[info]hamrammr
2013-05-06 08:53 pm UTC (link)
Your wife just lost her child. Don't you think that crying is a natural reaction to that?

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[info]tuor
2013-05-06 09:01 pm UTC (link)
I do. That, and being attacked for being upset.

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[info]hamrammr
2013-05-06 09:47 pm UTC (link)
Maryanne snapped because she was attacked herself.

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[info]tuor
2013-05-06 09:54 pm UTC (link)
She should not be forgiven for her snapping if my wife is still taken to account.

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[info]hamrammr
2013-05-07 06:23 am UTC (link)
Okay, Mister, get off your fucking high horse. What Maryanne did is not a crime. Neither what your wife did. And if you ever want to be forgiven for any one of your mistakes, you should start forgiving people for others, especially when they are about grief and caring for someone.

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