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Elenwë of the Vanyar ([info]vanya_elenwe) wrote in [info]compass_network,
@ 2013-04-17 02:41:00

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I would like to speak to some of the women in this place. I am curious.

In the world where I live, love is a thing that happens once in a lifetime. It is a special thing, a bond between two fëar and two hröar, and something that we hold to until the end of the world.

But here, it seems that things are done differently. Women have many lovers, which is strange to me. Why would you do such a thing, when it brings you such pain? I am not trying to judge. I am simply curious.



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[info]gatz
2013-04-17 07:13 am UTC (link)
Because sometimes they fall in love with one person, but society forbids them from being with that person, so even though they say they'll wait for you, they quickly marry someone else.

Why are

Love is pain.

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[info]vanya_elenwe
2013-04-17 07:18 am UTC (link)
Oh, nay, love is beautiful.

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[info]gatz
2013-04-17 07:34 am UTC (link)
It should be. It should be easy, but it is not always so simple. I hardly understand it myself.

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[info]vanya_elenwe
2013-04-17 07:55 am UTC (link)
Simple? No, that it is not.

But perhaps it would not be so beautiful if it were so simple.

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[info]gatz
2013-04-17 08:51 am UTC (link)
Perhaps you are right. It is just unfortunate that not everyone is so lucky. I have known love, and it only caused me heartache.

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[info]vanya_elenwe
2013-04-17 08:57 am UTC (link)
I am sorry that it was that way for you. It would not be, were the world unmarred.

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[info]gatz
2013-04-17 09:05 am UTC (link)
Thank you. Yes, perhaps it would have been different, had we lived in your world. Circumstances were against us.

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[info]vanya_elenwe
2013-04-17 09:06 am UTC (link)
Perhaps you will find her again, wherever it is Men go when their souls leave this world.

Or perhaps you will be lucky enough to find happiness before that. But there is much joy still in this world, even without love.

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[info]gatz
2013-04-17 09:27 am UTC (link)
As it happens, she has appeared in this world. Perhaps it is a second chance, but so much has changed. I'm not sure. I'm sorry, I'm being too candid.

Thank you. I appreciate your positivity.

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[info]vanya_elenwe
2013-04-17 06:25 pm UTC (link)
Too candid? Nay, I should like to hear your stories. I am not shy. Far from it! I am told that I speak too much and too openly, but I see no reason for shame in love.

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[info]gatz
2013-04-17 08:15 pm UTC (link)
Yes, it is not the sort of concerns I should speak of so publicly, especially considering she is now present on the island. I wouldn't want anyone to judge her harshly based on my words. Perhaps I'm the shy one, it seems.

Oh, but our love was- I don't want to say shameful, but it wasn't- proper.

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[info]vanya_elenwe
2013-04-17 08:27 pm UTC (link)
Men can certainly be the shy ones.

How can love be improper?

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Elenwë | Gatsby
[info]gatz
2013-04-17 08:49 pm UTC (link)
It's a matter of breeding. She explained it to me in the only way she knew how- "rich girls don't marry poor boys". So I made myself rich, except it was too late. She was already married to another. I thought she would leave him, she never loved him- I thought she would see that we could be together and come back to me, but- it wasn't to be.

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Elenwë | Gatsby
[info]vanya_elenwe
2013-04-17 08:56 pm UTC (link)
Hmm. That is a strange thing, is it not? My husband is of higher rank than me, and his father! Ai, his father is the son of a king who married a seamstress. It is love that rules the day in my world.

But what I do not understand...why would she marry someone she did not love?

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Elenwë | Gatsby
[info]gatz
2013-04-17 09:06 pm UTC (link)
Well, poor girls can marry rich boys, that's just moving up a class. It doesn't seem to work the other way around. It wasn't just the riches- I'm a Jew, and such miscegenation would never have been accepted by her family, or the society in which she lived. It is I who was in the wrong, you see. I fooled her, I wasn't honest about who I was and I let her fall in love with me anyway.

Security? He could offer her a home, money, a certain lifestyle- beautiful, blonde children. There are many reasons, even if in her heart it wasn't right.

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Elenwë | Gatsby
[info]vanya_elenwe
2013-04-17 09:10 pm UTC (link)
I have a beautiful golden-haired child! Have you seen her? Itarillë is her name. Idril. She is married to a man named Tuor and she is lovely. She has her father's eyes. He is dark-haired though. Such lovely thick black hair. I wish she had taken after him.

It was wrong of you to lie to her, but it seems wrong that she couldn't marry you because of things you can't control. Jew...that is a religion, yes? We have but one religion in my world, but there are three different races of the Eldar. My husband is of the Ñoldor, and I am of the Vanyar. But there was no problem, which is how it should be. Love should rule the day.

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Elenwë | Gatsby
[info]gatz
2013-04-17 09:22 pm UTC (link)
Oh, congratulations! No, I don't believe I've had the pleasure. She sounds lovely. But you would wish she had dark hair? It sounds jolly strange to me, but it is a nice thought.

It's not so much that I lied. I was in the army at the time, you see, and I couldn't afford my own clothes, so I just wore my uniform. It meant that I was no different from any other boy in the military, and I chose not to disclose certain things. But I know now that it is just as bad to withhold information as it is to outright lie about it. It's just difficult, as you say, to be pushed down by things you can't control.

It is a religion, and a race. That is interesting to hear, it's good- I'm glad it was that way for you both. It should, indeed. If only it were so in all worlds. You are very lucky, ma'am.

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