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Tweak says, "hello hayley"

Grey (greywhite) wrote in compass_network,
@ 2013-03-23 14:31:00

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!open, maryanne walker (oe), ~isabel lane, ~micha delmare

Right okay not to piss on anyone's cornflakes or anything, but it occurs to me that we have a lot of different people from different times and worlds and everything and as such perhaps not everyone's aware of the availability and reliability of contraceptives here on the island.

And just in case anyone's unfamiliar with the concept - they're designed to stop a woman from becoming pregnant. There are a number of forms and although I'm not a health care professional I don't mind answering any questions you might have, although you might prefer to direct them to one of the doctors. Doctor Watson seems particularly knowledgeable about the subject and was a great deal of help when I worked out the island cannot be trusted not to remove you from your normal form of birth control.

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	greywhite 2013-03-23 02:56 pm UTC (link)
	I thought it needed to be said. But yeah, a little bit. I'm hoping to be made head of health if this whole government thing takes off, can you tell? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	gatz 2013-03-23 03:03 pm UTC (link)
	There certainly seem to be a great deal of pregnancies on this island, that's for sure. I assumed it was just the circumstances encouraging couples into bed, really. ~~I didn't know a woman~~ Well, it's certainly a progressive stance to take. You've got my vote! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	theheartofme 2013-03-23 03:08 pm UTC (link)
	Hey! I was pregnant before I got here. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	gatz 2013-03-23 03:09 pm UTC (link)
	Well, congratulations. I wasn't judging, merely speculating. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	theheartofme 2013-03-23 03:17 pm UTC (link)
	It's okay. My pregnancy was more like a freak accident anyways. Not that I'm not happy. I'm Elena, by the way. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	gatz 2013-03-23 03:19 pm UTC (link)
	They so often are. I'm glad that you are happy, though. Gatsby. Delighted to meet you, Elena. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	theheartofme 2013-03-23 03:24 pm UTC (link)
	Not really in my circumstances... It takes a bit more than crappy birth control. It's a pretty weird story. It's nice to meet you too! You're throwing that party tonight, aren't you? My boyfriend is taking me along so I can have some fun and relax. This island's been pretty stressful. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	gatz 2013-03-23 03:28 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, I see. Well, at least you are now pleased with the outcome. That's right, yes. I'm glad to hear it, I hope you will enjoy yourself. I've found the island to be an absolute head~~fuck~~ache so far, and I've hardly been here, so I can certainly imagine. I look forward to meeting you and your boyfriend this evening. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	theheartofme 2013-03-23 09:42 pm UTC (link)
	I am, even if it can be a little scary. I'm sure I will! And my boyfriend is great at getting me to relax. I love parties, I've just had to be a bit more careful with the baby and everything. Life's been kinda a mess, even before showing up here and getting pregnant. I'll drag him by to talk! :) (Reply to this) (Parent)

greywhite
2013-03-23 03:08 pm UTC (link)

Yeah, someone probably should've mentioned it before really. I mean obviously I have no idea of the circumstances - all these women might want to be pregnant and have planned it ~~fuck knows why though, especially here~~ but I just figured for those that weren't planning on having babies it'd be a good idea to point out there are ways to help that not happen. Well I've managed not to get pregnant, so clearly I'm doing something right.

Not really, not when I'm from at least. I'm not really serious though. I'm not even sure how in favour of this whole government thing I am to be honest. I was never a fan back home.

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gatz
2013-03-23 03:15 pm UTC (link)

I shouldn't imagine that every woman who is pregnant did so through careful planning, but my knowledge on the subject is rather limited. Are you talking about condoms? What is all this about a pill, that you mention above?

Really? I should have thought it was a rather risky topic, although it is pleasing to hear that yet again, things have changed. I can't say I paid them a great deal of attention.

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greywhite
2013-03-23 03:27 pm UTC (link)

I'd be surprised, but then I don't have a maternal bone in my body so it's easier to think no one would want children than everyone would, you know? Well everything I mentioned in the original post really. Right I'm not really as big on the science and things as I should be. Lets see - it's a just a pill you take every day containing female hormones that well stop you getting pregnant. Basically.

Well I don't suppose it's the sort of thing a lot of people talk about in public like this - but maybe that's why there are so many unplanned pregnancies, and I'm talking generally here, not on the island. But it's not as frowned up as it once was. I used to be a bit of a political activist when I was younger. Although in hindsight I didn't know how lucky we were. Probably best not to get into it. Talking about the tories tends to make me violent.

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gatz
2013-03-23 03:59 pm UTC (link)

I don't suppose I've ever been in a position to consider it greatly. That's very interesting- yes, very interesting. Did it not cause arguments? Is there anything new that men can use, or are we still on rubbers?

Yes, I do agree. In my time at least, I don't think the majority of people were aware of how to prevent it. Or perhaps their particular religious sensitivities (that they then inflicted upon the rest of society) prevented it even being open for discussion. I imagine you would have been among the suffragettes? Or what do you say now- simply feminist? No matter how lucky anyone is, there is always room for improvement in one way or another. I'm not sure what the tories are, I apologize.

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greywhite
2013-03-23 05:50 pm UTC (link)

Yeah I suppose so. In some places. The UK seems cooler about it than America, but I suppose we're not as much of a religious country which probably has something to do with it. Plus we're much smaller so we have fewer nutjobs. I seem to remember there being talk of a pill for men, but I don't think it ever really got off the ground, but no you're basically stuck with condoms, sorry.

I don't suppose it was nearly as simple back then. I mean the pill didn't really become widely available until the 60s, so I suppose it was more down to the man. I imagine I'd've been throwing myself under horses, yeah. That's the word yeah. And you're right, absolutely. And it's impossible for everyone to agree on how to improve things. Yeah right sorry - they're a political party - basically a bunch of privataly educated toffs who are more interested in helping their rich friends get riches by making the poor get poorer.

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gatz
2013-03-23 06:21 pm UTC (link)

From what I saw throughout Europe, pretty much everywhere is "cooler" about it than America, but then I suppose America was built on Christian values. ~~They simply forget that they weren't the first inhabitants, and they're certainly not the be all and end all. I'm speaking out of turn I~~ That's all right, they have never failed me yet. ~~That I know of~~

I suppose that's what I mean about arguments. It leaves a woman free to make her own choices about these things. I think it is a good thing, but there are many who wouldn't. No, you're right- there are many things I would think of as an improvement that would be laughed at in some circles. Why, I imagine there are plenty who would like to see me exiled or- goodness knows what. I see. Well, that certainly doesn't seem to have changed much.

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greywhite
2013-03-23 07:04 pm UTC (link)

I take it you're not a religious man then, Gatsby?

You're clearly one of those progressing thinkers. I agree completely and it seems ridiculous to me than almost a hundred years on woman still aren't given the complete right to decide what happens to their own bodies. Yeah, I wouldn't mind so much if they actually gave something back but most of them don't even pay tax because they can pay accountants to work out how they can avoid it, in a completely legal way!

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	gatz 2013-03-23 07:41 pm UTC (link)
	I'm worse than that, I'm a Jew. Could you not tell? Oh, well thank you, I should think that's a compliment. It sounds like there is still a long way to go. ~~I don't know if You'd probably hate that~~ ~~I spent most of my life desperate to be rich, and~~ They're a rotten crowd, and I'm sorry I was ever a part of it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

greywhite
2013-03-23 07:45 pm UTC (link)

You're trying to get me to make a penis joke here, right?

It was intended as one, yeah. I wonder if we'll ever get to a point where the people in charge will just accept people should be trusted to make their own choices. If those choices end up killing them well that's their look out. I'm sure some of them are okay. I mean I've not wanted to punch you once, and that's quite the feat if I'm honest.

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	gatz 2013-03-23 08:18 pm UTC (link)
	~~Shit!~~ I- really don't know what to say to that! I really doubt that it will ever get to that point, sadly. Well, some of them, perhaps. A small number. It is perhaps because- well, there's no reason to lie any more- I'm what they patronizingly refer to as 'new money'. It probably changes things. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	greywhite 2013-03-23 08:21 pm UTC (link)
	Yes or no? Yeah the people that are born into it have no fucking clue what it's like to be skint and thus don't care. There's nothing wrong with earning your money rather than just being given it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	gatz 2013-03-23 08:27 pm UTC (link)
	Was I setting you up for a joke? No, certainly not! That's about right, yes. There's not much that they do care about, to be honest. Well, not everyone sees it that way, apparently. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	greywhite 2013-03-23 08:29 pm UTC (link)
	Then I'll keep it to myself then. But no, I can't say I'd noticed. Beyond money, obviously. Yeah well some people are idiots. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

gatz
2013-03-23 08:35 pm UTC (link)

I'm sure I can fill in the punchline for myself. Well, that's something. I must say it surprised a few when they realized I wasn't living up to their little- stereotypes. They're used to being able to spot one a mile away. Makes them a little uneasy. I can't say I've noticed it mattering too much here.

Well, of course. They certainly are, despite their expensive educations.

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	greywhite 2013-03-23 08:38 pm UTC (link)
	I'm sure you can. You seem fairly smart. Yeah I can't say I notice all that much about people beyond their personalities if I'm totally honest. You really don't go for following the trends, do you? I'm not convinced paying to education people makes them much smarter if I'm honest. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	gatz 2013-03-23 08:50 pm UTC (link)
	Well, thank you. That's a very fine quality you have. Most people are so quick to make assumptions. I don't know. I did follow certain trends, just not the ones I was supposed to. I doubt that it does. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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