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Lindsey McDonald (stopitevilhand) wrote in colligo_network,
@ 2009-05-23 10:38:00

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A minute ago, I was dead in a demon bar and now I'm here. Answer seemed pretty simple. Holding hell dimension. City backdrop, people know nothing, weird ass sentinels keeping you out of places you aren't supposed to go.

Except I'm alive, not brainwashed to think I'm a nice family guy, and they don't give you PDAs with access to message boards.

What the fuck is this place? And more importantly, how do I get out of here? I've got scores to settle.

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witchwithaplan
2009-05-23 02:54 pm UTC (link)

I would have. What with the way half of them like lording it over people, there'd have to be some-being out there dumb enough to make them feel good about themselves. I know someone who got turned into one. Long story. Most people usually don't. I was just a really weird little kid ... that grew up to be a really weird adult. Made my day meeting a Sandman.

Oh, so when you said rare? You meant just the one. That's bad. Very bad. I'm guessing that your gypsies aren't much like your witches if they can curse people with souls. Though, I gotta admit, while I've met some powerful gypsies-very powerful ... they're kind of like of my kind of witches, born-I've never heard of any this soul-business. Might be because we don't have your type of vamps. But I would have thought that magic like that would be trans-dimensional. Like Karma magic.

They have a magic law school in your world? Or did you .. work for those Senior Partners? Why would they do that? Don't get me started on the hypocrisy. "We must protect the future of good magic ... oh, wait, except that little bit of future, becuase it's too powerful and I'm just a really big wimp." Does power make a person good or evil? No! It doesn't. Yeah, yeah, sure, power corrupts, but is it that hard to imagine that a good and solid up-bringing can change all of that? ~~Bet his dumb Elder self didn't even consider the fact that someone he trusted actually trying to kill Wyatt could have been one of the things that made evil-him~~ Sorry. Sore spot. Anti-hero good guys? You mean people just in it for themselves? Or more like Batman. Who didn't always play it by the rules. Except you know, not as violent. And yes, I do know all about Batman's wily ways. ~~Being a teacher than a Headmistress does that to a person~~ I guess it makes sense. I certainly know that me and my coven spent all of our time since we learned about magic, breaking a lot of the more ridiculous rules.

That's .. that's not fair. Even with all of that one girl wouldn't be able to handle all the forces of evil on her own, even if it was just the demons and vamps. I have my coven, the ability to orb, a form of telekinisis, am more durable the average person, and have the scrying and the potions and all the regular witchy stuff. That still hasn't stopped me from dying seven times in the three years that I've been doing magic! These Watcher guys are sounding so much more messed up than the Elders and that's saying something!

Most of our prophecies something has happened. They usually predict death or birth or speak about destinies or the days that magic is just going to up and die. No battles or anything. Not that I know of. I'd have to check out Magic School about that.

Sounds like the Source. What would happen if someone just sealed them out of your dimension? Or destroyed their bodies? Just out of curiousity? Because when we destroyed the Source's demonic body, the essence which pretty much is as ancient as your Senior Partners, just went to the next one crowned as the Source. But we managed to take care of that when our coven's angel just orbed that thing under a rock. Far, far away. Balance was still normal. However, when the Avatars took over and erased all evil ... well, that's when things went, for lack of a better word, bad. ... What I'm trying to ask is. Which would happen if your good guys, without the quotes, kicked your Partners butts?

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stopitevilhand
2009-05-23 03:32 pm UTC (link)

My mama was a believer. I just accepted it and didn't give much thought after. One of those things where if it doesn't affect you, it's not worth dwelling on. You've met an actual Sandman? There any species that you haven't actually met?

Two. The one mentioned above and his grandchilde, the latter actually going out of his way to get his to impress a Slayer, no less. Don't ask. It's a tedious soap opera. Gypsies share a similar brand of magic, just specialized. Doesn't mean someone who isn't a gypsy couldn't do it, just that they're known for it. Same goes with shamans, who know a spell to remove the soul. It probably is the differences in realities. Changes the rules.

There's no magical law schools. It's the kind of thing you learn only after you've been employed, unless you've run into it beforehand. They'd lock me up because my reputation isn't exactly sterling. Ever notice they can't do anything themselves? There's always someone sent to do their dirty work unless it isn't going their way. Then they step in. Upbringing might change that but I doubt it factors in as strongly as personality and disposition does.

Anti-hero. Someone willing to do some evil to do some good. Side "evil" doesn't think twice about some of the methods it uses while side "good" has a list of rules a mile long about what it can't do to win. Evil sometimes wins just because Good has its hands tied, all under the excuse "for the greater good." So yeah, something like Batman. Or what I can remember of him.

Tell it to the Watcher's Council. Then again, they don't see her as much more than a weapon anyway. One dies, another takes her place. Seems the only one who ever really loses sleep over it is the Watcher assigned to her that ends up caring about her. It happens.

Magic School? There's an actual school to go learn magic?

Wouldn't happen. To defeat the Senior Partners, all bad in the world would have to cease to exist. They exist on another plane and if there's evidence to them having physical bodies, they've managed to keep it out of all recorded records. That's the thing. Evil can't cease to exist. There will always be something and on the long shot that it does? There goes balance and the world as we know it is screwed. Same goes for good.

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witchwithaplan
2009-05-23 04:12 pm UTC (link)

~~That’s a great outlook on life~~ Uhh, well, I didn’t actually meet the Banshee. I’ve never met a Wendigo. Thank God for that too. I’ve never met a Bunyip. I’m sure there are lots out there that I haven’t met yet.

But aren’t Slayers … oh, well, it could be romantic. It could be about trials and tribulation and fighting against the rules. Or it could just be a lot of angst. And boring. Okay. No asking. Got it.

~~You didn’t answer my question about you and these Partners .. Though I guess you kind of just did~~ Uh-huh. And what exactly is “isn’t exactly sterling”? Of course I notice. I have to deal with it all the damn time. Makes you want to strangle them. Especially since they’re supposed to “know more than you do”. Yeah, I notice that too. Can’t see why they couldn’t have stepped in for the first place. Not only does it causes them less frustration, it makes it easier for me to step in and give them just what they deserve before they can actually do any harm. I think that matters a lot too. I think that despite my wild youth, if I’d been adopted by lowlifes I’d still be determined enough to make something out of myself. At the same time, I know the way my adopted parents raised me went a long way in shaping my future and my decisions. Not to mention, the fact there are forces out there that are quite capable of turning someone evil. No matter their personality or disposition. Just like a love of a good parent is sometimes just enough to keep a baby from giving into their demon side-a demon side that is completely evil.

I can’t believe I’m going to say this … but rules are there for a reason. If we didn’t have the rules who knows what the less moral would be willing to do. Heck, I’d like to say I’m on pretty good moral and karmic standing, and I know I’d be willing to cut more than a few rules but once you start on that path, often times there is no stopping it. Batman also had his family to keep him from going too far. Not all anti-heroes are gonna have that.

I hope one of those Watcher people don’t end up showing here. Or else I might forget just for a second that I can’t use my powers against humans.

Yep. To provide a space of education and safety for the next generation of good magic. Give them some place where they won’t feel like .. Well, like a freak for having powers. Where they can learn about magical history, improve their craft, take classes on everything from astral projection to telekinesis and biology to literature. The school it self is pretty secret, but it’s … it’s hard to describe magic school in and of itself. I’ve worked in it for almost a year now ~~I think, time goes by so fast .. A year~~ and I’ve been the Headmistress for almost half as long and I still haven’t discovered all the rooms in the place.

Then it’s like, or would be like, when the Avatars tried to create Utopia. Or when Gideon screwed with the balance. Having lived through two versions of a world without Evil, I agree .. As much as it has taken so much from me ~~and mine~~, I kinda like that thing called free will.

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stopitevilhand
2009-05-23 05:53 pm UTC (link)

They know all, they see all, they do whatever the hell they want. Despite what they want us to believe, omniscent beings, good or evil, are not above being petty, throwing tantrums, or breaking their own rules. It makes them less than perfect which is better for us in the long run. I'm not saying upbringing doesn't factor in but you could have a kid raised in a good, loving household that ends up wanting to kill his little sister because she got more marshmallows in her hot chocolate than he did.

Some of them are. Others are put in place to protect the ass or asses of the rule makers and let's them get away with things they might otherwise not be able to. Not every rule should be followed. No they don't but not every anti-hero is going to fall by the dark side because he's got a few damaged morals either.

Huh. Learning magic is still just a self-taught or mentor thing where I'm from, outside of the few covens in existence.

There should always be the right to free will. Once that's taken away, the end is coming soon after, as overdramatic as it sounds.

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witchwithaplan
2009-05-23 06:25 pm UTC (link)

I don't know if the Elders are exactly omniscient since they're clueless about a lot of things but I get and agree with what you're saying. Okay, and I get that point too ~~Please don't ever talk to Piper. She's neurotic enough about Wyatt as it is. Now with baby Chris~~.

Can't say I've seen or heard of the Elder's breaking that many rules. Only one, but I guess where one can, they all can. I know not every rule should be followed. Believe me if they all had been, I wouldn't be here talking to you right now. I owe my birth to rule-breaking, but for the most part they're good guidelines. And not every rule follower is going to end up like a Watcher or an Elder or your powers.

Me and my coven were mostly self-taught. We didn't learn about Magic School until they really needed our help.

Oh don't worry about overdramatic. It has it's place. And when it comes to free will, I say go with it.

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	stopitevilhand 2009-05-23 07:50 pm UTC (link)
	It's possible they can be but there's ways of fooling them too. Just have to know where to look. I'm not saying all rules. There are some to keep to if you want to live to see another day but others...probably just something we'd have to agree to disagree on. And then you later on ended up headmistress of the school. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

witchwithaplan
2009-05-23 08:17 pm UTC (link)

I think I've a few tricks up my sleeves on that front. ~~My sisters have more, of course~~

Looks like.

Yeah that, that was really unexpected. It starts off with, "Paige, teaching is the path that you must take" then it becomes a way to save the place because the vague moron who set you on said path goes evil, or all "greater good", on yeah ... Next thing you know you're being coerced by the Elders and hundreds of lost begging faces, and the head of a school.

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	stopitevilhand 2009-05-23 09:02 pm UTC (link)
	Always handy to have. ~~Damn ex-watchers.~~ And it was something you just couldn't say no to, right? That's a heck of a way to get hired. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	witchwithaplan 2009-05-23 09:11 pm UTC (link)
	I think so. Yeah, pretty much. It's not that I really wanted to say no ... I mean, I enjoy teaching. I love the school, my co-workers, the students. It's just ... running it isn't how I planned to spend the rest of my life. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	stopitevilhand 2009-05-23 09:30 pm UTC (link)
	Looks like you won't have to worry about that now. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

witchwithaplan
2009-05-23 09:36 pm UTC (link)

Of course I do. Knowing the Elders me disappearing will be just an excuse for them to close down the school and that's the very thing that I don't want. I didn't go up against them just to end up in this place and have them kick all of those kids out from the safest place that they have.

Sorry. It's just that I know the Elders and instead of doing the smart thing and look for me they're going to do what's easiest for them. Not caring who they hurt in the long run.

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	stopitevilhand 2009-05-23 09:42 pm UTC (link)
	I think that right there is evidence to some of the points in the conversation we just had. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	witchwithaplan 2009-05-23 10:51 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. I do agree with you, did too. I still don't think they're omniscient though. But meddling, manipulators? Always thought they had that down. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	stopitevilhand 2009-05-23 11:18 pm UTC (link)
	They're supposed to be. They just happen to be either bad at it or lazy, maybe even both. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	witchwithaplan 2009-05-23 11:31 pm UTC (link)
	Probably just the first one. I think it's just the air up there messing with their brains. Or maybe that "you'll better if you find out yourself" garbage. They use that one a lot. It could be that they know ... they're just mean. I'm going with mostly clueless and stingy with what they do know. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	stopitevilhand 2009-05-24 12:08 am UTC (link)
	Stingy would get my vote. They would probably say that if they gave us all the details, they'd be doing all the work for us and we would never learn. Or they could just back off and let us sort this all out by ourselves without outside interference. Personally, I like that idea best. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

witchwithaplan
2009-05-24 12:19 am UTC (link)

If they gave us all the details, they wouldn't need us in the first place. So I take it back. Your lazy gets my vote. Needy too. Cause if they did that what would we need them for? Really? It's not like there's any connection beyond them telling us what to do and us grumbling.

You would. I'm not opposed to it myself.

You know this is the first time I've ever argued the good and bad of the supernatural world, not to mention the in between, without introducing myself. Actually ... I think this might be the first time I've done it period. At least this thoroughly.

My name is Paige. Paige Matthews. Not to be confused with Winterborn-Cortez ~~who really, really, really looks like my sister Phoebe~~

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stopitevilhand
2009-05-24 08:48 am UTC (link)

Lazy and needy higher powers. Great. We have our fates toyed around with by powerful teenagers. It's one of those things where you'd like to have a conversation with them if only it didn't get you smited the first time you disagreed.

Well, this is the first time I've argued the good and bad of the supernatural world just after coming back from the dead and being tossed out of the library. So I guess it is a day of first.

Lindsey McDonald. I'll probably be able to keep you two Paiges straight.

What's the money situation around here? Can we still access are accounts? I need at least a new shirt.

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witchwithaplan
2009-05-24 09:24 am UTC (link)

Elders aren't much for smitting ~~unless you~~. They're more likely to either stonewall you or take something away from you that you really desire. ~~Like they've done plenty of times with my sister and her husband~~ Which is really helping your teeanger theory. If it wasn't for the fact that I've seen a few elders and one of them had a really gray beard, I'd be one hundred percent behind it. Ever meet any of your Powers?

Seems like.

Just probably? Drats and here I thought that I was a distinctive Paige.

No. Sorry. You show up to a teller with your PDA and they give you one hundred bucks. Then you're on your own. But unless you're used to paying more than that for a shirt, I think you're good.

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	stopitevilhand 2009-05-24 05:21 pm UTC (link)
	Teenagers. Immortal teenagers. I've met the Senior Partners, though not by choice. It's something I don't talk about. Most likely. If I meet either one of you in person, I'll think I'll be able to tell which one is which. I have before, a while back, but a hundred will do me just fine. No need to dress for success. Thanks. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	witchwithaplan 2009-05-25 10:54 am UTC (link)
	That's good. Wouldn't want things becoming more confusing than they already are. No problemo. I'm just happy to be able to buy clothes that later won't be ruined by demon goo. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	stopitevilhand 2009-05-25 11:59 am UTC (link)
	I get that. Shopping isn't my favorite thing as it is. Replacing clothing everytime it gets torn or ruined just makes it worse. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	witchwithaplan 2009-05-25 12:21 pm UTC (link)
	I don't mind the shopping. It's the not being able to afford the constant replacing of my clothes. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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