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Mephistopheles ([info]feedsmycontempt) wrote in [info]undertherainbow,
@ 2010-07-28 14:34:00

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Entry tags:april foster, ares, god, mary, mephisto

There are about 3.7 million Christian churches in the world, and about two thirds as many synagogues.  Wouldn't all that space be better left to nature? Your God can hear you within your walls, you don't need holy walls to speak to the Creator.

It's a silly tradition, to build temples around your faith. If it's so flimsy it needs a house around it, then maybe your faith's not worth having. And no matter the size, false idols are false idols.

I'll be gone for a couple days. Personal business.



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[info]virginal_
2010-07-28 09:53 pm UTC (link)
I go to temple mostly for the friendships and sense of community. I know that She can hear me wherever I go. For me it's a house of love. Humans need that.

I like mine, too, it's not fancy or anything at all like that.

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[info]feedsmycontempt
2010-07-29 12:47 am UTC (link)
Pardon for the slow response, I had a mad Creator to address.

If you wanted community, why not do as they did before your time, and worship with each other in your homes, in your community centers, in the parks or in the woods? There are no limits to exploring the community and... God's graces, yet your kind cloisters itself into sterile environments that show that truly, in those buildings, the only love is the love between your own kind.

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[info]virginal_
2010-07-29 12:53 am UTC (link)
People don't really like doing that anymore. I like the idea of worshiping at home, but a lot of people aren't comfortable with that. I go to a few people's houses, though! Honestly, I feel closest to Her when I'm helping out. The little ones and I help at a battered women's shelter.

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[info]feedsmycontempt
2010-07-29 12:57 am UTC (link)
If you're part of such a snug community, why would those people be so hesitant to invite you and others into their home? You especially, Mary, you have not a single thing to show as impurity. There's no wonder about Lucifer's attachment to you, dear.

And She's around. Being close to Her would be a simple portkey to Vatican city.

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[info]virginal_
2010-07-29 01:02 am UTC (link)
It's mostly the people allergic to cats. Toby found a bunch of strays and we had to keep them all. Eight cats and two kids and a pregnant woman is a bit much for most people.

I know, but the connection's more than just her, I think. I think it's being connected to everything. You, me, trees, water - I just feel like a part of the world and love it so much.

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[info]feedsmycontempt
2010-07-29 01:12 am UTC (link)
How can you feel connected to nature when you wall yourself away from it?

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[info]quirkyhumor
2010-07-29 12:58 am UTC (link)
And I love you all the more for it. You and Lucy and your child are precious to me.

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[info]virginal_
2010-07-29 01:02 am UTC (link)
We love you too.

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[info]quirkyhumor
2010-07-28 11:51 pm UTC (link)
So it's okay for you to have your little kingdom in Libya but it's not okay for people to worship me in buildings other than their homes?

Oh Mephistopheles. You have become such a cynic. What happened to my cute little Mephi?

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[info]feedsmycontempt
2010-07-29 12:41 am UTC (link)
How dare

After this long

Why would



I don't ask them to follow me or worship me, Your Grace, and yet they come. It was one asking if it would please me to build a temple to me that even set me on this course. I told him to leave such folly for You.

And Raziel is dead, Creator, You killed all that once was about him. If You wanted less cynicism, perhaps You would have left me to the human realm instead of duping me into making a bet you knew I wouldn't win.

Incidentally, Ariel may be more pissed off than I am about that one. And replacing him was the icing on the Fuck You cake.

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[info]quirkyhumor
2010-07-29 12:57 am UTC (link)
Actually, I don't really ask them to worship or follow me either, my darling. I give them the choice.

Raziel will never be dead to me. No matter what name you call yourself, no matter what choices you make in your existence, no matter how you flaunt your lifestyle and flip me the proverbial as well as physical middle finger, I am still your Creator and I will still always love you. That bet was the only out I had at the time and if you can't believe, much less forgive that, then I can't help you.

You're not a lost cause. None of my children are. It simply remains to be seen what the future holds.

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[info]feedsmycontempt
2010-07-29 01:11 am UTC (link)
If this is love, God, I would loathe to see what you do to the ones you truly despise. If this is love, I would rather know none again. You claim so much that you do is infallible, yet in the process of having no other recourse with me, you also let me destroy a man you claimed to be your favorite. That man is here, now, and knows nothing but loss and betrayal due to a game that you perpetrated. You could have left me alone (And by Your name, you know you did long and well enough) and he would have been a stronger, happier man for it. I wouldn't call it presumption, I know very little of what You have in store for us, for any of us, but he could have done without my intervention, and I could have done without Yours.

No, I know that, and I don't need your help to find a way to purification. I am on that path, walking alone.

I once loved you most. There's a cold, useless stone where that once was. Once I carve it out of me, perhaps there will be room for love, but I assure you, it won't be for you.

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[info]quirkyhumor
2010-07-29 06:35 pm UTC (link)
I did nothing to you, Mephistopheles. I offered you an arrangement. You were under no obligation to take it. Free will. You chose to destroy him. There is no "I let you". What would this world be without free will? What would you and everyone else be if I were the puppet master who pulled your strings and made you do every thing I wanted, made you dance and jump at my every whim?

You alone are responsible for your decisions, for your life, for your circumstance. Any choices you have made that led you where you are today are what you should blame, not me. The very first important choice you ever made is where you should start. Yes, you loved me. You loved me more than any other, you were my sweet angel. But that is where your love ended, and it shouldn't have. But that was your choice. My humans are important to me, as important as my angels and my animals and everything and everyone else. I have will have children soon as evidenced by their adult counterparts who were here not long ago. Real live children that I shall birth myself. And still, they won't be more important to me than everything else in this world.

I am here. If you want me, if you don't. I am here. Nothing will change that. It isn't my job to force you to love me or beg you not to hate me. It isn't my will to make you bow to me and humanity as it wasn't my will all those many years ago. You always have a choice. Just remember that, my former angel. The choice is always yours.

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[info]feedsmycontempt
2010-07-30 12:28 am UTC (link)
How can You say that You did nothing to me when You knew that the one thing I wanted more than anything was to return to Heaven, to ascend? I would have done anything to get back, and You knew that. You used my moment of weakness, the moment when I was the closest to Them to dupe me into sending me farther down. And to say that Ariel, the man searching for truth he already had before him, was your favorite atop that? You knew I wouldn't resist such a tempting offer. You KNEW I wouldn't say no, that I couldn't!

And to say that I'm responsible for where I am today frankly is bullshit, Your Grace, you KNOW that, too. it was You who made me to only love You, and then You insisted I love something else. I could not go against my nature then, and I suppose I understand that your lesson there was to love them as I love myself and love You. And now that I'm direly close to doing just that, You blame me for my own Fall? Why in Your name would you say such a thing?

God, since when did we ever have a choice? You only ever gave THEM that gift. I was only made to serve. And now that I've felt and become corruption, now that I've nothing left to show of my former self but the Knowledge and the memories....

I cannot love you any longer. The fact that I did for so long has proved to be foolish, and has led me down a road I no longer wish to travel. I no longer wish to Ascend, but to be demonic, to live an existence of pure corruption is not my wish. I will live among Them and give them the strength and knowledge that they seek, as is my duty, God, but not for you. For them.

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[info]blood_lust
2010-07-29 01:14 am UTC (link)
I miss my temples. So many pretty virgins brought just for me.

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[info]feedsmycontempt
2010-07-29 01:16 am UTC (link)
Most of them were open air, at that time, weren't they? Pillars and columns and a roof, and not much else. Your followers weren't complete dicks.

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[info]blood_lust
2010-07-29 01:21 am UTC (link)
Of course they weren't, they were following me.

Perhaps I will have a temple built for me in Greece again. I've spent too long here in Korea.

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[info]feedsmycontempt
2010-07-29 01:30 am UTC (link)
Do you think there's much room for a revival of your ways, Ares? I have no objections, mind, I just wonder if you thought of the implications.

If you do it, then all your brothers and sisters, all your nieces, nephews, cousins and all the Titans will want their own, and soon, everyone will have a temple to themselves and your work will have been for naught. You'd get three devout men at the very most.

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[info]blood_lust
2010-07-29 01:35 am UTC (link)
Bah. You're probably right. My family can not think for themselves.

I am bored with this life. There is no war, except boring ones my sister runs. I am no longer allowed virgins, nor am I allowed to lay waste to countries with these bombs I covet. What is the point of having these if I can't USE THEM, I ask?

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[info]feedsmycontempt
2010-07-29 01:38 am UTC (link)
I suppose you could set them off at the moon? Who needs that silly thing, anyway.

You never were one for patience, Ares. I suppose that makes you and I kindred spirits in a way.

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(no subject) - [info]blood_lust, 2010-07-29 01:42 am UTC
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[info]faerietalegirl
2010-07-29 02:00 am UTC (link)
If all those churches and synagogues would work to better the situations of the people around them - actual physical betterment, not "spiritual" betterment - I think they'd be worth the space.

In actual fact, all most of them do is condemn and harass the kind of people my friends and I are - back home, mostly. I say there's definitely better uses for all that space.

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[info]feedsmycontempt
2010-07-29 02:04 am UTC (link)
A mortal with intelligence, I knew there was one somewhere.

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[info]faerietalegirl
2010-07-29 02:07 am UTC (link)
I'll take that as a lovely compliment, sir. And I'll take it by your wording that you're not a mortal yourself?

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[info]feedsmycontempt
2010-07-29 02:08 am UTC (link)
By far, no. I was here before the first man, and I will be here when the last man ceases to breathe.

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[info]faerietalegirl
2010-07-29 02:13 am UTC (link)
Oh, wow. That's... wow. I can't even imagine living that long. I suppose that's part of being mortal, though, huh? Only so much we can wrap our heads around, even when we try to stretch our limits.

I'm April.

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(no subject) - [info]feedsmycontempt, 2010-07-29 02:17 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]faerietalegirl, 2010-07-29 03:16 am UTC
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Meph - [info]faerietalegirl, 2010-07-29 03:21 am UTC
April - [info]feedsmycontempt, 2010-07-29 03:37 am UTC
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