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Tweak says, "well hell, im gunna"

runespoor7 (runespoor7) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-09-21 22:41:00

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char: robin/red hood/jason todd, char: speedy/mia dearden, creator: judd winick, publisher: dc comics, title: green arrow

Request: Jason-Mia interaction
Context: Red Hood has teamed up with a local villain to distract Green Arrow and a visiting Batman, and has kidnapped Speedy. Due to scan limits, I can't post the pure gold that is Bruce and Ollie's dialogue as they follow.

They're in her highschool gym, where he's freed her, given her back her bow and arrows, and is giving her all the motivation in the world to want to kick his ass. He's already taunted her that she can only attack from afar as long as she's got arrows, and when she runs out she knows he'll come for her. She replies that no, it can be over when she puts an arrow in his eye. He reminds that she's not even gonna try that. Non-lethal shots only, right? (Jason's info is good because it's recent.)

title: green arrow, char: speedy/mia dearden, char: robin/red hood/jason todd, creator: judd winick

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Re: A Lonely Place of Dying

mysteryfan
2009-09-22 07:29 pm UTC (link)

Agreed! It's a real problem with Damian for me, too. Because of his blood, he's supposedly inherited heroic qualities. I mean, they are all of different classes, but Damian's like royalty and far above the rest of them. Even though he's plenty angry and kills and behaves terribly, we're supposed to know he'll overcome because underneath, he's Bruce's. And a little prince amongst the regular folk. He even treats Alfred as though Alfred is beneath him. He treats Alfred like a servant, and nobody else does that. I think the way he treats Alfred is a strong indicator of what social class we are to see Damian as coming from.

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Re: A Lonely Place of Dying

sistermagpie
2009-09-22 08:01 pm UTC (link)

I know it's just what they're going for with the character, but it is basically a situation where we know Damian's good enough straight off, and almost anything they want him to do he's expected to have done due to his blood and upbringing. I remember someone once pointing out that he'd have been trained since birth in war tactics and strategy or something and I thought...yeah, that would give him a fifth grade level education in tactics and strategy. But anyway, his personality problems are something to be indulged and amused by without any real fear that he might not be cut out for the job.

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	Re: A Lonely Place of Dying kingrockwell 2009-09-24 05:09 am UTC (link)
	I know we go back and forth about this a lot, but I don't think it'll be that Damian is Bruce's that'll set him straight as it's that he's around the people who really are Bruce's. I like to think it will, at least. When Damian starts being an okay guy, I think it'll be more Dick's influence than Bruce's DNA. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: A Lonely Place of Dying mysteryfan 2009-09-24 09:32 am UTC (link)
	Damian's already started being an okay guy. Batman and Robin, so far, is not the story of two of Bruce's sons. It's the story of one son and one ward named Dick, who's a family friend. I don't even think GM is even aware that he's writing it that way, he's just really enamored of his character being the biological son of Batman, and he writes it as such. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: A Lonely Place of Dying

sistermagpie
2009-09-24 03:10 pm UTC (link)

I was surprised when I finally read all of B&R 3 and realized that Dick had nothing to do with what appeared to be a turnaround in Damian on S_D. In fact, it wasn't really a turnaround, just both of them agreeing to forget Damian's walkout didn't occur. Dick's main job was to give Damian positive reinforcement, presumably with the idea that that's what he really needs.

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	Re: A Lonely Place of Dying mysteryfan 2009-09-24 04:01 pm UTC (link)
	Very much agreed. (Reply to this) (Parent)

Re: A Lonely Place of Dying

runespoor7
2009-09-24 05:40 pm UTC (link)

When Damian starts being an okay guy, I think it'll be more Dick's influence than Bruce's DNA.

It's probably going to go that way, but the fact that Morrisson has spent so much time making a big deal out of Damian's genetics means that the only way for it to stop mattering would be if he's revealed not to Bruce's son after all. He's already Robin because he's Bruce's biological son.

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