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icon_uk (icon_uk) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-06-14 10:54:00

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char: batgirl/oracle/barbara gordon, char: joker, series: one perfect moment week

One Perfect Moment - The DCAU Joker has a sleepover
A perfect DCAU moment for the Joker

In going through issues for "perfect moments", I've found several which deserve fuller attention at some point, but that'll have to wait. So here is a perfect Joker moment from Batman: Gotham Adventure #1.

The scenario - The millionaire father of a young man murdered by the Joker (Who was killed because he splashed mud on the Jokers new khaki walking shorts) has offered a $50 million reward to anyone who will kill the Joker for him.

In an effort to save his life from the many, many, MANY Gotham citizens who are keen to cash in on the offer, Batman takes the Joker to the Batcave for protection until he can sort things out. He, Robin and Nightwing head out to quell the rioting mobs, leaving Batgirl in charge of the prisoner.

As ever, best imagined with Mark Hamill's voice.

I was never a fan of this "look" for the Joker, but it's a fab little moment!

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	drsevarius 2009-06-14 05:26 am UTC (link)
	If Batman put in as much effort in saving everyone else's lives as he does the Joker's, he'd be a much better superhero. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	runespoor7 2009-06-14 05:30 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, what a lazy, good for nothing excuse for a protector, that Batman. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	drsevarius 2009-06-14 05:33 am UTC (link)
	It's too bad he couldn't protect the millionaire's son. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-06-14 05:36 am UTC (link)
	Sorry to interrupt Dr Sevarius, but there's a Jason Todd on line 2 who'd like to discuss that one further. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	vignettelante 2009-06-14 05:41 am UTC (link)
	There never was a Jason Todd in the DCAU, for what it's worth. Although now that I think about it, Terry was quite like him in a few ways. Or at least in the "angry kid steals from Batman only to become his protege" aspect. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	runespoor7 2009-06-14 05:44 am UTC (link)
	There was Tim. Who was a street kid, whose father used to work for Two-Face, who had a very cynical view of Gotham justice, and who met a griesly end at the hands of the Joker. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	icon_uk 2009-06-14 06:04 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, that was Tim, who they gave Jason 2.0's origin to. (Reply to this) (Parent)

janegray
2009-06-14 08:46 am UTC (link)

Th funny/sad thing is that, with all his murders, DCAU Joker is still much less of a murderous maniac than DCU Joker. As much as I always go "man, I wish Jason killed the Joker already!", I don't feel that way at all towards DCAU Joker, whose body count is nowhere near as high.

Even the horrible torture of Tim Drake still paints DCAU Joker as the "better" man (relatively speaking). For DCAU Joker, torturing an innocent kid was implied to be something he had never done before, something Batman didn't expect him to do, a Big Deal. For DCU Joker, that's tuesday.

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espanolbot
2009-06-14 12:52 pm UTC (link)

I think that the DCAU Joker's was still up there, I mean despite the Metropolis rocket attack at the end of the STAS episode 'World's Finest', there was his numerous destructive uses of the space-laser in 'Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker', there were also people's corpses littering the place in the background of 'Mad Love' and the Batman the New Adventures episode that had the Harley, Ivy and Clayface segments.

As well as random people in episodes, like the Cadmus guy he gassed in the (chronologically) first Royal Flush Gang episode.

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	lonewolf23k 2009-06-14 01:45 pm UTC (link)
	Actually, DCAU Joker is stated as being just as much of a cruel, murderous maniac as DCU Joker, except that most of those murders happen off-screen, due to censorship. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

janegray
2009-06-14 02:15 pm UTC (link)

I don't know about that.

Many times, when the DCAU Joker commits a crime, we see tied-up cops at the scene. If they were dead, the Joker's underlings wouldn't have wasted time to tie them up. And if the Joker murdered them off-screen, we wouldn't see them at all, instead of seeing them tied up.

While DCAU Joker does kill, I do get the impression that he doesn't do it nearly as frequently as DCU Joker.

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	icon_uk 2009-06-14 02:48 pm UTC (link)
	As "Return of the Joker" and "Joker's Favour" proved, he can be infinitely crueller when he DOESN'T kill, because he'll do his worst to you and leave you alive at the end to keep on suffering. Anyone can kill, but Joker can destroy your life, and still leave you alive at the end of it, just to prolong the horror. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	lipsofpoison 2009-06-14 09:17 am UTC (link)
	I just cracked the hell up at that. It was my reaction to Batman Begins. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	runespoor7 2009-06-14 05:43 am UTC (link)
	Joker apparently lacked the social grace to send a message saying he was going to target the man. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	drsevarius 2009-06-14 05:45 am UTC (link)
	I just find it funny that Batman is going through all this effort to save a psychopath from the father of one of his victims. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

runespoor7
2009-06-14 05:48 am UTC (link)

In the end, he puts the Joker in front of the man and tells him, "if you want the Joker dead, then kill him yourself" instead of letting him buy himself an assassin and change an otherwise innocent citizen into a murderer because he wouldn't do it himself. He's not just trying to save Joker's life, he's also trying to save everyone else who might be tempted by the money.

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	janegray 2009-06-14 08:37 am UTC (link)
	On the other hand, Batman also says that he only gave the father a chance to kill the Joker because he was sure that the father would have got cold feet. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	runespoor7 2009-06-14 09:32 am UTC (link)
	That's part of the point. Buying a murder is all the more cowardly if you can't bring yourself to commit the crime yourself. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	starz_n_stripes 2009-06-15 08:35 am UTC (link)
	I don't know why, but this made me lol. Hard. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	vignettelante 2009-06-14 05:39 am UTC (link)
	Letting Joker into the Batcave is probably the worst idea DCAU Batman has ever had. And they gave him quite a few opportunities to grasp the idiot ball, I believe. (Reply to this)

	hammster.livejournal.com 2009-06-14 05:56 am UTC (link)
	Huh. Totally read that last bit as "I'll tell you about the first guy I ever kissed, then I'll tell you about the first one I ever killed". Which would have also been interesting I guess. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-06-14 06:06 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, but you know that Mr J would only ever smooch Batman, so it's not exactly a mystery. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	hammster.livejournal.com 2009-06-14 06:10 am UTC (link)
	It'd be pretty entertaining to have him tell Babs all about it, though. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-06-14 10:20 am UTC (link)
	Tell me, would this retelling maybe involve... sock puppets? :) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	*chokes* merseybeatler 2009-06-14 10:23 am UTC (link)
	You are an EVIL, EVIL man....but you're funny, and that's why you're here! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	hammster.livejournal.com 2009-06-14 12:41 pm UTC (link)
	One can only hope :D (Reply to this) (Parent)

	merseybeatler 2009-06-14 10:21 am UTC (link)
	This is great...although something tells me that Barbara never took him up on that. T'would have been scrumptiously cracky. On the other hand, he killed someone for getting mud on his khaki shorts? Maybe I've watched too many Indiana Jones films or Steve Irwin shows, but isn't the whole point of wearing khaki shorts to get them absolutely filthy?? (Reply to this)

	bluefall 2009-06-14 11:31 am UTC (link)
	Silly Joker. Babs doesn't kiss boys. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	unknownscribler 2009-06-14 12:46 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, just inappropriate older men :P (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	bluefall 2009-06-14 12:58 pm UTC (link)
	See, the nice thing about never having given a crap for Batman Beyond is that I get to completely ignore that. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ladymirth 2009-06-14 01:17 pm UTC (link)
	Preach it! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	icon_uk 2009-06-15 08:41 am UTC (link)
	Look me in the icon and say that! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	bluefall 2009-06-15 09:16 am UTC (link)
	Eh, enjoying Baby!Terry requires only a passing knowledge of the existence of BB, not any genuine details of the show canon. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	perletwo 2009-06-14 11:57 am UTC (link)
	I know, I know, it's DCAU and Joker's dialogue is wonderfully cracky...but I still get meta-chills seeing Babs!Batgirl just sitting there with her back to the Joker like that. (Reply to this)

	ladymirth 2009-06-14 01:15 pm UTC (link)
	Bruce left Barbara alone in the Batcave with the Joker? O_O (Reply to this) (Thread)

	bluefall 2009-06-15 01:23 am UTC (link)
	Why not? How's that different from leaving himself alone in the Batcave with the Joker? This is the DCAU, not the Batgodverse. Joker's not particularly hypercompetent here, and there's not really a meaningful talent gap between the older Bats. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	dustbunny105 2009-06-14 01:36 pm UTC (link)
	Heehee, love this! Isn't this the one where Nightwing says that Batman is "too trusting"? (Reply to this)

	psychop_rex 2009-06-15 07:44 pm UTC (link)
	Aw, MAN, you left out the best part! The bit right after this, with the 'Roger Rabbit' reference, and Alfred being badass! I'm all disappointed now... (Reply to this)