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Sam Winchester ([info]tallerthanthou) wrote in [info]marinanova,
@ 2014-08-14 20:17:00

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Entry tags::class, :mingle, artemis crock, bonnie bennett, carol peletier, charlotte charles, doctor facilier, kitty pryde (aoa), martha jones, nico di angelo, piper halliwell, sam winchester, spencer reid, wally west, zatanna zatara

Day 284 : Paranormal Studies : Open Class Mingle
Hi. Today, we're talking about witches and witchcraft. We have a guest co-lecturer, so I'll be going over how things work where I'm from and Piper Halliwell [nodding over to her] will talk about her world's human-created magics.


Overview : Topic

In my world there are different kinds of magic. Demons and angels have it built in, but any human can access it through the right spells and knowledge. We call the humans that draw on this magic a lot witches.

Witchcraft can be lots of different things like astrology, divination, spell casting, and talking to the spirits. There are different forms of it all over the world dating back to ancient times. Sometimes the magic is coming from a specific belief system like Voodoo or Wicca.

What makes it good or bad is how they draw their powers and what they use them for. By using spells and potions witches can do lots of different things like mind control, getting eternal youth, controlling the elements, shape-shifting and hexes.

[ WITCHCRAFT ]

For me, there are even humans that have access to it naturally. Yes, demons and other supernatural beings have the ability to exhibit natural powers, but so do certain kinds of witches. For example, I can cause things to freeze in place or blow up. [She looked a bit nervous as she said this. Teaching people to cook was one thing. It was a ‘normal’ activity. She was demonstrating, so people were looking at the food and not at her. She wasn’t talking about something that was so deeply ingrained in her to keep secret.] I don’t need a spell or a potion to do it, though I have been able to recreate natural powers using spells and potions.

That said, there are humans who don’t have natural powers. Witches with natural powers are considered “magical”, while witches who rely on spells and potions for all of their abilities and don’t have natural powers are considered “practitioners”. Practitioners use external sources of magic to cast their spells and create their potions. They have to be in a place that already has power. Magical witches have this source inside themselves already, and that is why they have the ability to tap into a natural power without the aid of a spell or a potion. Both can end up being either good or evil, depending on the intent of their magic use. Using magic for personal gain or against other creatures of good or against Innocents, humans without any powers and non-practitioners, is the path towards evil.

Good witches have the Wiccan Rede, a way of life and a vow of sorts. An harm it none, do what ye will. That phrase is what distinguishes a good witch from a bad witch. [That sounded so Wizard of Oz...] Good witches protect and defend. Evil witches seek personal gain and power.

When a witch first gains their power, there is a window of time in which they can decide. And, while the decision can be reversed later, most often, the initial decision comes from the nature of the person making it. It’s rare for a good witch to become evil and vice versa, but not impossible.

Witch powers are controlled through emotion and usually have some sort of physical component to being used. If you get angry at something, and twitch your nose at it, it suddenly bursts into flame. Or someone gets excited, and throws her hands up above her head, the chandelier suddenly shoots sparks all over the place. It’s important for a magical witch to learn what kinds of emotions and gestures trigger her powers so she can learn to control them and avoid potentially messy accidents.


[ WITCHES ]


Practical : Defense of Hexes

Hexes are one of the most common attacks a witch will use. They usually require a hex bag to be left on or near the person being targeted. It's a small bag filled with various charms, herbs, bones and other things. It allows whatever kind of spell has been set to take place. Maybe someone starts choking on their own blood or loses all their hair or gets set on fire. Whatever happens, the only way to stop it once it starts is to locate and destroy the bag.

[ HEXES ]


Case Study : Charlie

My brother and I once had a case where we were investigating a string of mysterious deaths that were happening to stage magicians. You know, the kind who pull rabbits out of their hats and do card tricks. As it turned out one of them was an actual witch who had a grimoire filled with real magic spells. He was giving himself eternal youth and trying to give one of his unsuspecting friends some success by making all of his tricks work. He'd defy something that was certain to kill him and someone else would die in his place.

[ CHARLIE ]


Case Study : Piper Halliwell

[Piper had been even more nervous about using herself as the class case study, but she didn’t feel right giving out information about someone else without them having a say, even if they weren’t here for that information to be used against them. Plus, it had been done before, like with the vampire class. It made sense to go that route again, in some weird way.

Suddenly, it was her turn, so here went nothing.]


Personally, I’m capable of everything a practitioner witch can do. That’s potion making, spell casting, and scrying. However, I’m considered a magical witch because I have a natural power in addition to the basic abilities. My power revolves around being able to change the speed of molecules.

My sisters and I describe the two basic ways of doing this as freezing and blowing it up. [It was really simplistic, but it was easier to illustrate through those terms than molecular immobilization or combustion.] I’m not going to demonstrate an explosion because we’re in a small space, but I can do this. [She took a piece of paper, held it up in front of her, and then let it drop. About half way through its fall, she flexed the fingers of her other hand and the paper stopped, hanging in mid-air.] This was my first power. I just slowed the molecules of that paper to a complete stop. To blow it up, I speed them up, which developed later and could almost be considered a second power. It’s not uncommon for a witch’s powers to grow to a point where it seems like she has several different ones, even though it’s really just one specific power used in different ways.


[ PIPER HALLIWELL ]


Questions & Discussion

[He looks at Piper again to see if there's anything else she wants to add.] Okay, so questions for either of us?

(OOC: Mingle style. Sam's comments are black. Piper's comments are in orange. Notifs are off so tag Sam and Piper during class with questions or catch him or her before or after class. Use your discretion with the links provided. They didn't necessarily cover every detail, but feel free to bring more into it. Please note Sam's canon point is toward the send of season 5, so nothing beyond that.)



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Before or After Class
[info]trytobenormal
2014-08-15 01:33 am UTC (link)
[Piper had been nervous about this one. Now that it was done, she wasn't exactly relieved. If anything, she was nervous of what people might think. Things were different here when it came to special powers, so she was pretty sure no one was going to want to dissect her, but that didn't alleviate her anxiety over what she had done today.]

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[info]tallerthanthou
2014-08-16 02:09 am UTC (link)
Hey. [Turning to her afterward.] It sounded good. Thanks for doing this.

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[info]trytobenormal
2014-08-18 07:08 pm UTC (link)
Oh, yeah. Sure.

[Still coming down off that adrenaline rush from her nerves here.]

It did go pretty well, huh?

[No rhyming spells, either.]

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[info]tallerthanthou
2014-08-21 07:35 pm UTC (link)
No one threw rotten fruit, so I'm considering it a win.

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[info]trytobenormal
2014-08-21 08:52 pm UTC (link)
[She laughed at that. It was a little over the top, but mostly because it released a lot of the nervous tension she had built up.]

Yeah. I'll take that as a win, too.

[Whew. Relief!]

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[info]tallerthanthou
2014-09-01 02:49 pm UTC (link)
It was a good turn out too. I guess people are either looking to build their rehab points or they liked the topic.

Unless you bribed them with food or something. [He's kidding.]

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[info]trytobenormal
2014-09-05 04:31 am UTC (link)
[She laughed again, though this one was more normal sounding.]

No food, so it's gotta be the points.

[Definitely feeling a bit more relaxed now.]

Though, I'm hoping they liked it, too. It's good to see how things are different between different worlds here. That way, people don't go all crazy right away if there's something similar, but it's not what they're used to.

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After
[info]pushedback
2014-08-16 03:15 pm UTC (link)
[ She already knows Sam, which means that she'll make a beeline for the other teacher first. ]

It was a really great class, thank you.

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Re: After
[info]trytobenormal
2014-08-18 07:09 pm UTC (link)
Uh, sure. No problem.

[Nervous smile here.]

I'm glad you liked it.

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[info]pushedback
2014-08-19 11:56 am UTC (link)
[ Aw, don't be nervous! ]

I did! It was very interesting — we don't really have anything like this back home, I don't think.

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[info]trytobenormal
2014-08-19 08:14 pm UTC (link)
No? I'm guessing you haven't been exposed to it before, then. Since, that seems to be the case in a lot of these situations.

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[info]pushedback
2014-08-20 07:25 am UTC (link)
Probably not — you never know, right? People are so good at keeping secrets, especially if it makes them different somehow.

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[info]trytobenormal
2014-08-20 04:57 pm UTC (link)
Usually. [She nodded.] But that's fine. There are usually good reasons for it.

[Like government agencies, and experimentation, and bad press, and crazy people hunting you down for various reasons...]

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[info]carol_peletier
2014-08-20 05:23 pm UTC (link)
I don't know what I was expecting, but it wasn't that. Very informative. Thank you.

[Admittedly, witchcraft was a topic that made her a little uncomfortable. It wasn't something she'd ever really taken seriously, but the church she'd gone to as a child preached against it. After the outbreak, she'd reevaluated a lot of what she believed, but it seemed some things had been seeded and left forgotten.]

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[info]trytobenormal
2014-08-20 06:44 pm UTC (link)
Most people expect black pointy hats, brooms, giant cauldrons full of bubbling goop, and black cats. [She laughed a little.] It drives my sister nuts when she sees stuff like that. It's okay, though.

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[info]carol_peletier
2014-08-26 03:35 am UTC (link)
I think the image they were trying sell around my parts was black lipstick, heavy mascara, and a dark wardrobe. Black cats optional?

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[info]trytobenormal
2014-08-26 03:39 am UTC (link)
Definitely optional. Familiars are usually cats, but they don't stick around for a witch's entire career. Just in the beginning. And for me and my sisters, our cat was a Siamese. [She chuckled.]

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[info]carol_peletier
2014-08-26 09:29 pm UTC (link)
So, you're the real deal, then? I always thought it was something made up. A scapegoat for all the bad things. [Briefly, it had even been blamed on the outbreak. That had lasted all of about a day, before the walkers ate or turned the accusers. And the accused.]

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[info]trytobenormal
2014-08-27 08:50 pm UTC (link)
It has been, but, where I'm from, it's all real.

[She shrugged a little.]

It was an adjustment when we found out.

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after
[info]medeis
2014-08-20 10:20 pm UTC (link)
[Bonnie comes over to Piper after speaking to Sam, giving her a bright smile.]

I feel like I learned a lot from that. Thank you.

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Re: after
[info]trytobenormal
2014-08-21 05:06 am UTC (link)
Oh, sure.

[She smiled a little.]

I'm glad.

I hope I was at least able to remove the idea of all witches looking like green women from Oz from people's minds?

[Nervous laugh.]

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after
[info]medeis
2014-08-21 06:46 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I think you definitely did. About time someone did. [She laughs lightly.] But you did great, Piper. Seriously great.

I'm Bonnie by the way. Bonnie Bennett. It's nice to meet you.

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Re: after
[info]trytobenormal
2014-08-21 08:48 pm UTC (link)
[She almost introduced herself, but that would have been silly. Sam had introduced her at the beginning of class.]

Nice to meet you, too.

So, outside of stereotypical fictional witches, do you have anything like this back home?

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[info]medeis
2014-08-25 03:58 pm UTC (link)
[Bonnie nods.]

Magic is something that is inherited where I'm from. People are either born with it or they're not. Witches draw energy from things around them- the earth, elements, other people.

When I first discovered I had magic I wasn't in control of it and my Grams taught me how, she taught me almost everything I know about my powers and to use them for good.

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[info]trytobenormal
2014-08-25 08:46 pm UTC (link)
[The comment about 'Grams' got Piper to smile.]

I call mine Grams, too.

[She giggled a little at the thought, and then nodded, as her next words became a little more serious. Her tone gradually reflected it, too.]

In a way, she taught us a lot, too. Everything she knew, she kept a written record of it. Our powers didn't manifest until after she was gone, but, with the written information, we were actually able to talk to her spirit once we were strong enough. After that, she helped us whenever we needed her to. It was good. And it was good that we were able to do the same with our mom.

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