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ᴊᴜʟɪᴀ ᴡɪᴄᴋᴇʀ (juliawicker) wrote in valloic,
@ 2020-06-22 21:00:00

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₴ inactive: john constantine, ₴ inactive: julia wicker, ₴ inactive: ray palmer, ₴ inactive: sara lance

LEGENDS OF TOMORROW + THE MAGICIANS
I was kind of hoping you guys were available to talk some time travelling shop?

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	andmagic 2020-06-23 04:27 am UTC (link)
	Are we going to need a phone-booth? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	juliawicker 2020-06-23 04:49 am UTC (link)
	Why, you got a cut-off shirt laying around? When you go back in time to fix what's broken, how do you know your interference won't cause more problems or have unintended consequences? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	andmagic 2020-06-23 05:03 am UTC (link)
	Short of it? You don't. We fucked up all the time. Sara and Ray have far more experience with actual damage control than I ever did. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	juliawicker 2020-06-23 05:08 am UTC (link)
	Not exactly reassuring. But I also appreciate the directness. It's just, being what I am, I have the best chance of remembering this place if I'm ever sent back. And apparently one of my friends is going to die after I get back and I can't not try to stop that. So any and all advice is appreciated. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	andmagic 2020-06-23 07:21 am UTC (link)
	You're worried about something that hasn't even happened yet back home? Is your friend here now? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	juliawicker 2020-06-23 01:22 pm UTC (link)
	He is. He’s from after it happened. So is everyone else. Which means I’m in a unique position to do something about it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	andmagic 2020-06-23 01:40 pm UTC (link)
	Ray's right, luv, there are some things you can't change. Sorry. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	juliawicker 2020-06-23 01:48 pm UTC (link)
	Is trial error the only way to know? I need something more than "sorry" here to go on. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	andmagic 2020-06-26 12:40 am UTC (link)
	If I knew, believe me I'd tell you. There are things I'd love to change in my own past. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	wantstomatter 2020-06-23 10:07 am UTC (link)
	This is definitely something Sara has more experience with and, I'm sorry to say, you won't like the answer. There's just some points in the timeline you can't change. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	juliawicker 2020-06-23 01:22 pm UTC (link)
	Okay but how can you tell what points can be changed and what points can’t? (Reply to this) (Parent)

	voice-to-text theyellowbird 2020-06-23 01:18 pm UTC (link)
	Ray is right. The answer isn't one you will like. Some deaths can be avoided. Some are fixed points in time and can't be changed. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	juliawicker 2020-06-23 01:24 pm UTC (link)
	Okay but what makes something a fixed point versus something that can be changed? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

theyellowbird
2020-06-24 12:07 am UTC (link)

You...can't? At least, we can't. Sometimes Gideon could tell us if something was fixed. Gideon was our ship's AI. But I think it depends on how much the death of a person's death impacts the world. My father and I were supposed to die at the same time as my sister. When I was plucked from the timeline and ended up our ship, it changed my fate, but that didn't have much of an impact other than to save my father. My sister still died, and I can't change that, because her death leads to so many other things happening. I Captain a timeship, but I can never bring back my sister.

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	juliawicker 2020-06-24 01:44 am UTC (link)
	I didn't realize. I'm sorry, Sara. ~~But it sounds like there is a way to get around~~ (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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theyellowbird
2020-06-24 01:49 am UTC (link)

You don't have anything to be sorry for. The point is, not everything can be fixed. Some deaths can be, yes. Some can't. The multi-verse ended and restarted and I didn't get my sister back. But, other people did come back. So there's no solid answer. I can't tell you how big a role your friend plays in the grand scheme of things. But I'm sorry you lost him in your world.

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	julia + sara juliawicker 2020-06-24 01:54 am UTC (link)
	I don't suppose Gideon is here? To get her professional opinion? Do whatever calculation it is that she does to make that determination? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

julia + sara

theyellowbird
2020-06-24 02:00 am UTC (link)

G's built into the Waverider and the Waverider isn't here. Ray's trying to build me something similar to help with work, but it won't have the same capabilities.

Basically, we're told not to change time unless something is out of place. There are some loopholes, but you have to be careful. Sometimes you can screw things up for the better, sometimes there can be total devastation.

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	Re: julia + sara juliawicker 2020-06-24 02:20 am UTC (link)
	Other people have gotten houses, cars... maybe one of you will get lucky? (Reply to this) (Parent)

	wantstomatter 2020-06-23 10:07 am UTC (link)
	If he did he'd probably still wear the trenchcoat. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	andmagic 2020-06-23 12:36 pm UTC (link)
	During my Mucous Membrane days I made a lot of questionable fashion choices. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	wantstomatter 2020-06-23 01:24 pm UTC (link)
	Was one of them a cut-off shirt? Because I might feel like I missed out. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	andmagic 2020-06-23 01:41 pm UTC (link)
	More than a few... (Reply to this) (Parent)