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Gansey (mintedking) wrote in thedisplaced,
@ 2018-08-26 13:48:00

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!network post, adam parrish, alina starkov, baelfire, fray, noah czerny, richard gansey iii, ronan lynch

I had considered filtering this post, but it could also be an open debate. Daria, Torunn, and anyone else considering taking or having any interest in art history, what interests you about art and art history? What do you wish to learn? What aspects or themes, across the swath of history we cannot hope to entirely cover in a single course, do you wish to explore? What art do you like today that you would like to see the roots of?

Art has been with us a long time, and though we may only see bits and pieces of the most ancient works here, we can appreciate today the wide array of human creativity. We can see it from the highest masterpieces to book and album covers, even in the graphic design we see all around us.

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	mintedking 2018-08-27 03:34 am UTC (link)
	That sounds incredible. My guess would be somewhat of a Western focus? Starting in Sumer or Egypt perhaps? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	whatacliche 2018-08-27 03:35 am UTC (link)
	What's Sumer? Is that like a land that's always summer or something? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	mintedking 2018-08-27 03:41 am UTC (link)
	Sumer is one of the earliest civilizations we know about, certainly the earliest in Mesopotamia, often called the Cradle of Civilization. The name Sumer comes from the name foreigners called Sumerians, and it's how we commonly refer to it. Their name for themselves means "Place of the Noble Lords." It was a verdant area capable of supporting civilization. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	whatacliche 2018-08-27 03:43 am UTC (link)
	I don't really understand anything you're talking about right now. Is this common Earth knowledge? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	mintedking 2018-08-27 03:44 am UTC (link)
	It is earth knowledge, common depends on what schools someone went to. When I was younger, I relied on the Encyclopædia Britannica, but today you can Wikipedia many topics well. Then the knowledge is yours. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	whatacliche 2018-08-27 03:47 am UTC (link)
	You are kind of talking about it like I should know what it means, though. It's probably because you're used to people that do. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	mintedking 2018-08-27 03:52 am UTC (link)
	Mesopotamia is something most people may have a passing familiarity to the name but would have trouble defining. And reading it was called the Cradle of Civilization, you have as much information as they likely could give you. I assure you, I am used to all sorts of people, most of whom have no reason ever to think about the place. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

whatacliche
2018-08-27 04:12 am UTC (link)

I haven't yet completed a full year of schooling and most of the topics and information is overwhelming because most people have been to school before, so they don't need to play catch up.

They are better with it at the EPS because Rogue knows Dad and knows I haven't been to school, so they tailor things a little bit. But sometimes it's still overwhelming and I don't understand everything and it makes me feel stupid because it feels like everyone else understands it. It makes learning harder because I don't feel like it. I don't want to go through the motions of learning everything I've missed. I wasn't raised on Earth or even in Fillory. Survival classes and farming make sense because at least I can do something with what I'm learning and I am doing something in general. Everything else feels ridiculous.

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mintedking
2018-08-27 04:49 am UTC (link)

There are a lot of subjects in school that cover a lot of information. But most of it boils down to a few skills, which you can then apply at whatever subjects you wish to or find a need to, the most important of which is critical thinking. No one, no matter how much school they take, will know everything about everything. In fact, the further up you go in education, the more specific the work you study becomes. The better you want to know something, the narrower the subject upon which you can set your sights.

I mentioned the encyclopedia and wikipedia because they are tools. When reading books, news articles, and more, there will be unfamiliar material. Sometimes it can be figured out from context clues, sometimes you might need to look something up. And you can. You have that at your fingertips. It will not tell you everything, but you can look up what you want, and if you determine you want to know more, you can look into doing that too.

But you should certainly not feel stupid. Not everyone understands. Some people are better at hiding that. But here, in this example, two people who take interest in art and art history exchanged a comment apiece. Since Baelfire loves art and mentioned a college level art history class and since I am teaching an art history class, admittedly at the high school level, it's not surprising it has references you didn't understand. So very specifically, here, you absolutely shouldn't feel stupid. If anything, I should have explained more accessibly what I was speaking about.

I want what I teach to be accessible and of interest to those I'm teaching. That's why I made this post. EPS class sizes are small enough to allow some liberties in electives like Art History.

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	whatacliche 2018-08-27 04:19 pm UTC (link)
	[...] I will look into your information sources. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	mintedking 2018-08-27 04:25 pm UTC (link)
	I hope you find them useful. I still do. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	fray/baelfire brokendeal 2018-08-27 11:38 am UTC (link)
	I've never heard of Sumer or Mesopotamia. The only history class I've ever taken has been with Doctor and we didn't talk about stuff this far back. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	fray/baelfire whatacliche 2018-08-27 03:31 pm UTC (link)
	Fairy history and Earth history are very different things, I think. Most classes are not interesting because I cannot relate to them or the information. It makes learning complicated when I would rather work. At least I am used to that. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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brokendeal
2018-08-27 04:14 pm UTC (link)

I understand. If you are from anywhere other than Eatth, it is all going to be a very different type of history. There are different events so it can't be identical. I try to associate events that have happened in this world to something similar in mine so I can begin to understand the 'why.'

I think I would have done better if I would have gotten to go to school in the Mountain, but I was just over the cutoff, so I have been catching up on my own.

Have you thought about watching documentries?

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	fray/baelfire whatacliche 2018-08-27 04:30 pm UTC (link)
	What I know is that humans cannot be trusted and that is why the Faeries made their own realm so that they could not be harmed by them again. They are immortal, but they can be killed. They make deals with people and the prices for a deal vary on what is being asked for. I don't like to sit for very long. It doesn't make school very easy. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: fray/baelfire brokendeal 2018-08-27 04:36 pm UTC (link)
	That's what you know that they believe, right? Not what you believe? The first statement. Not the rest. I imagine that is fact. [...] Fairies are much different in my world. People should always be mindful about making deals. You should see if they will let you move around in classes. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	fray/baelfire whatacliche 2018-08-27 05:22 pm UTC (link)
	I don't have magic, thus I am not a threat. My name is short for Frail Human. That is how they view us. What are they like in your world? The price is always given up front. I suppose my parents wanted whatever they wanted very much. I guess I could ask. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	brokendeal 2018-08-27 11:37 am UTC (link)
	I have no idea. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	mintedking 2018-08-27 04:22 pm UTC (link)
	Of course, not all syllabi are available ahead of time. I’m curious to hear about your class as you take it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	brokendeal 2018-08-27 04:24 pm UTC (link)
	I'll let you know once school starts. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	mintedking 2018-08-27 04:27 pm UTC (link)
	Excelsior. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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