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maya lopez is more than an echo (ashtawawidiwin) wrote in thedisplaced,
@ 2018-08-08 13:56:00

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!network post, jake stone, maya lopez / echo (616), noah czerny

I should do a unit on Dadaism this year. People give so much attention to Cubism and none to this beautiful weirdness. Of course Cubism is definitely significant, but I think there's been something of a resurgence of the principles of Dadaism lately that's really interesting.

Case in point.

In the meantime... Madeira, Portugal or Koh Tao, Thailand?

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	chair_knee 2018-08-08 03:37 am UTC (link)
	I'm personally fond of the fish-chicken smoking a cigarette. I know we've only just met, but it feels deep. Or meaningless. It's hard to say. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	ashtawawidiwin 2018-08-08 03:39 am UTC (link)
	It's Dada, there's no reason it can't be both. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	chair_knee 2018-08-08 03:50 am UTC (link)
	I guess so. We would not want to limit it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ashtawawidiwin 2018-08-08 04:22 am UTC (link)
	Rules are an illusion. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	chair_knee 2018-08-08 04:35 am UTC (link)
	You sound like Ronan. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ashtawawidiwin 2018-08-08 04:40 am UTC (link)
	We might be talking about different rules. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	chair_knee 2018-08-08 04:44 am UTC (link)
	It's possible, but he always says that about rules. I like that art can be anything. I want to try some different things other than painting. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ashtawawidiwin 2018-08-08 04:49 am UTC (link)
	In the real world they're only an illusion as long as you don't annoy someone with power. I don't see any reason to bring that into art. If it speaks to someone, it's art. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	chair_knee 2018-08-08 04:54 am UTC (link)
	Probably. He's an artist of a kind. Just not with painting and stuff. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	cowboygenius 2018-08-08 08:14 pm UTC (link)
	I agree with you on Dadaism seeming to resurface as of late. There is a lot more challenging the status quo and with that, I think the Dada mocking of norms fits in well. There's no shortage of mocking, so the inspiration is there. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	ashtawawidiwin 2018-08-08 09:27 pm UTC (link)
	Too many people don't really look at the messages underlying things, or even outright deny that it's there. I'm never really sure whether it's a symptom of hearing culture elevating the use of words over any other form of communication or something else. Obviously there are people who study this sort of thing, but it seems like an underrated field. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

cowboygenius
2018-08-08 10:03 pm UTC (link)

I'd guess a mixture of things myself. I like what you said, about it being a symptom of hearing culture, but I also feel like we've been trained to only see one thing and anything else is wrong. It reminds me somewhat of being in high school English and asked to write an interpretation on a poem, what the author is trying to say. Then, a teacher would mark you wrong if it wasn't the one they were looking for. People are going to see something different in art, literature, but if they're taught there's only one right interpretation, then they're going to stop looking and wait for someone to tell them what it is.

Which is just a theory on my part. Dadaism is not one of my stronger areas.

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ashtawawidiwin
2018-08-08 11:43 pm UTC (link)

No, I'm more into Impressionism and the Fauvists' use of colour, really, but I dabble in a lot of styles and mediums.

It's funny, I wouldn't wish my childhood on anyone, but it definitely taught me a lot about communication and meaning and nuance. Very, very useful if you're going to be any kind of spy and have to learn how to sell a consistent lie in every movement.

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	cowboygenius 2018-08-09 12:40 am UTC (link)
	I understand that completely. There's too many to commit to just one. Kind of like you're glad you get those lessons but going back, doing it over? Hell no, just keep moving forward? The world could probably use a little more communication, meaning, and nuance these days overall. Probably stop a few misunderstandings before they start. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ashtawawidiwin 2018-08-09 02:28 am UTC (link)
	Something like that. It's a little unfair how it seems like you can either have a nice, easy life or develop actual character though. Not that most of the first kind ever notice. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	cowboygenius 2018-08-09 12:58 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, I kinda noticed that too. It's like the Powers That Be assume that a nice, easy life won't build character. Only way it can be done is the hard way around. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ashtawawidiwin 2018-08-09 09:06 pm UTC (link)
	The Powers That Be are a bit of an ass sometimes. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	cowboygenius 2018-08-10 02:31 am UTC (link)
	Sometimes. Sometimes they're all right. I guess it's if you're lucky enough to catch them in a good mood. (Reply to this) (Parent)