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Breq aka Justice of Toren was a ([info]troopcarrier) wrote in [info]thedisplaced,
@ 2018-07-08 14:28:00

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Entry tags:!network post, fray, gideon, justice of toren, katniss everdeen (au), kell maresh, matt holt, michael, ororo munroe / storm (616), rhy maresh, tony stark / iron man (mcu)

Greetings everyone. It would be a pleasure to make your acquaintance. Most recently in my life, most people call me Breq, but I am also Justice of Toren. Please forgive the immediate discussion of business; however, I have some issues that need to be addressed.

Athoek Station, part of it, has arrived with me, and Station - its AI - is in need of more assistance than I can provide. The Botanical Gardens, recently repaired, will need regular work to maintain it. Given enough time, I can take care of the rest of Station. The Undergarden was mostly repaired, and I can fix what remains. However, living things cannot be ignored for so long. Unfortunately, having just arrived, I do not have local currency on a scale to pay anyone yet. I do have more than enough food, we grow our own, as well as tea and other options, pursuant to conversation and your needs.

While I could spend all my hours maintaining Station, and I will spend a good number of them doing just that, I am also interested in gaining paid employment. I have roughly two thousand years experience in the military, five years experience as civilian security, as well as experience in a multitude of jobs from janitorial to sewing to sports. I am fluent in more than sixty languages and learn new ones easily. If you have means and need for any of my skills or ones I could learn, I am interested in speaking with you.


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[info]goldenhelm
2018-07-09 02:22 am UTC (link)
It is awkward, indeed, and you are not the first to react with some wariness. I did not take it as rudeness, at all.

Yes, I believe there are others, but American Sign Language is the only one I've learned. I would not be opposed to learning other variants. It's quite useful, even if you do have perfectly good hearing, to be able to communicate silently at times.

Ah, yes. There seem to be worlds without magic, and worlds with it, in much the same way that some worlds have great technology, and others do not. Magic, as I am familiar with it, is primarily elemental: those with a talent for it may be able to command one or more of the five elements: water, earth, fire, air, and bone (bone magic being, of course, strongly prohibited due to the violence of it). Then there are the magicians who can move between worlds or places within worlds, the Antari, whose power comes from their blood. They are extremely rare. Elemental magic is less rare, though the talent and skill for it varies immensely. And having a "command" over it means that one can move anything made with the element, or sometimes change its substance -- like water into ice -- with one's will or verbal order.

Of course, your family should certainly be a priority.

Thank you, I appreciate it. What world do you come from, Breq, and what is it like?

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[info]troopcarrier
2018-07-09 02:54 am UTC (link)
I am glad. It was not intended to be rude. You have more humility than most people I have met from old houses.

Indeed. I have been in more situations than worth counting where it was necessary to communicate silently. However, we have other means to do so where I came from. There are communication implants that can help with that, so long as you and whoever you are trying to communicate with share established means to connect. However, that does not help with strangers or many people. And here, those implants do not exist to the same extent. People use handhelds.

With all I have seen, the most likely situation then is that my world is one without magic. Magic is, perhaps, the element to being here that least makes sense to my life experience. Are you a magician?

We must all look out for each other, as we are able.

You are welcome. We only just recently declared our independence. Nearly everything is still being discussed and determined, but I am from the Provisional Republic of Two Systems. There have been many systemic injustices, much that had been ignored or permitted because it benefitted the most wealthy, but things have been changing since our arrival. I came with enough authority that with some politics, things have started to change for the better for our citizens, all of them. It had been part of the Radch Empire, but that was not good for any of our citizens, though most of them did not realize that before the tyrant arrived and became more of a direct threat to their lives.

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[info]goldenhelm
2018-07-09 03:19 am UTC (link)
Humility is essential in anyone who holds power, I think. I hope to keep mine.

Implants are... some kind of technology? I am very unfamiliar with such things; you may assume that I know very little about them. Almost everything in my world is made with magic, or by simple crafts, such as stone carving or glass making. Though of course, elemental magicians skilled with earth can combine magic and craft. [...] I am a magician, but not very much of one.

This group of people does usually work together to look out for everyone, including those who have difficulty protecting themselves. Though I am not in the latter category, it does make me feel very much more comfortable here to be part of such a group.

Congratulations on your independence, then! I am glad to hear that you are changing your world for the better. All worlds need people willing to do that. Politics are complicated, of course, and I am familiar with wealth or nobility being a [...] factor in how someone is treated, in many different ways. I hope that you will be able to establish and maintain your independence without too much violent conflict.

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[info]troopcarrier
2018-07-09 03:37 am UTC (link)
Justice, propriety, benefit. That's what was preached where I came from. Humility usually comes from experience.

They are technology that is placed in the human body, often in the brain, that allows for direct interface to some benefit or another. Medics, for example, use them to be able to see internal injuries, so they can better treat their patients. Most people in the Radch have communications implants, minimally. We are writing on this network, and as I was provided with a tablet on my arrival, I guess you are using yours to communicate with me. Your words are being displayed before my eyes, and I can reply here with little effort. I do have the tablet open, so Station can see what we are saying. But I do not need to use it.

Not much of a magician is still more magical than anyone else I have met.

That is good to hear. I am quite willing to work together to help our group, so that we may all adapt as best we can.

Thank you. Due to a treaty with the Presger and the presence of one of their translators, it was achieved with less violence than I had expected would be necessary. Unfortunately, wealth and prestige are factors in people's treatment most places I have seen, though how and to what extent has varied. I am hopeful that we will be able to do that. It is no easy task to establish a just and fair government, but we are trying, and my cousins have given me their blessing to reform the judicial branch as I would like. I will be developing that with input from many different people. After thousands of years of slavery, it is no small thing to do something different.

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[info]goldenhelm
2018-07-09 03:48 am UTC (link)
Those words sound very nice, but they can be twisted into complex meanings that are perhaps not very just, or proper, or beneficial. Not to everyone, at least.

[...] Wow. Implanted inside your mind? That is impressive technology, to be able to put something into the human brain without damaging it. But I can certainly see the use.

Magic flourishes in my world and it is highly prized as a source of strength; the amount that I have is not at all impressive there. My brother and lover are both much more highly skilled.

I am very glad to hear that. And I would be happy to talk to you about your ideas in forming a just and fair government, since I have many concerns about my own. It is far from a tyrannical government and slavery is thankfully limited to only a few daring, vile criminal types, who would be severely punished if they were found, but there are still [...] issues from my parents' reign and earlier that I would like to improve upon. And Arnes has a complicated relationship with one of our neighboring countries, Vesk, whose royal children opportunistically made an attempt at taking the Arnesian throne for themselves while my city was under siege from dark magic.

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[info]troopcarrier
2018-07-09 04:29 am UTC (link)
That was indeed a great deal of the problem.

It is indeed. They have been around long enough that most of the commonly used implants can be done safely with minimal risk of harm. However, there are no Medics here from my world, so it is not a technology that will rapidly spread here. I am no longer an expert at that.

There is never only one way in which to measure strength. And I still find your magic impressive.

There has been much violence done against human beings, including transporting them to distant worlds to perform menial labor, the lowest paid and lowest appreciated work. That ignores all the violence done during annexations and the hierarchies maintained even after them. But slavery, as it comes to AIs, was rooted in the belief that we were equipment and our obedience was expected the same way you would expect your door to lock or your sword to fight in your hand. And there were multiple ways to enforce it.

But I would be interested in hearing your ideas around governance and justice. It is something easier to discuss in the abstract, but it becomes much messier in any real situation.

Peace is tricky. Any victory achieved can be rewritten to be just by those who hold power. Given enough power and time, and to many it will become what they believe was. Had you lost the throne then, I am sure they would tell a much different story. But it is good that you are aware of some of the issues your country has. It gives you the chance to fix them.

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[info]goldenhelm
2018-07-09 04:47 am UTC (link)
I am sorry, though not surprised, to hear that.

Amazing. I never knew such things could exist. I don't know how comfortable I would be with such technology, but I am in awe of it all the same. [...] Which I suppose is, perhaps, similar to how you feel about magic. [...] I am not at the point of offering demonstrations, but perhaps at some point I will be. Magic has always been seen as one of my greatest weaknesses, and as a result the grasp I have on it is a tenuous thing.

[...] It sounds as though you speak from experience, having been enslaved yourself. Is that true?

I am more than willing to share any ideas that would be useful to you. I have been raised for politics, and have been reexamining my beliefs and ideas quite a lot lately, in light of [...] many recent events, including the ones I've already described. It was a very near thing, the assassination attempt. My mother was killed by the Veskans, and I would have died as well if not for my brother's magic. My father survived that attempt on his life, but died as a result of the dark magic not long after. It was on me, as a newly minted king, to prevent the Veskans still attempting to take the throne by outright war rather than quiet assassination. Thankfully I did manage it; the last thing I wanted was to start my reign with a war, even if it was one I could win. And the dark magic was also defeated. But there are many pieces to pick up and put back together, as well as things to fix which had already been broken.

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[info]troopcarrier
2018-07-09 05:31 am UTC (link)
I have traveled far enough from Radch space to know people who are similarly uncomfortable with that and other technology. Even within the Radch, opinions on various kinds of technology has changed over time, whether people realize it or not. [...] Magic being real is a rather peculiar idea for me after all these years. But it being a reality, I will adapt.

I cannot say whether magic is a weakness of yours or not, but it is responsible for some of your humility, is it not?

Yes. I am all that is left of an AI. The rest of me and my whole crew were murdered for my disobedience of Anaander Mianaai.

I am sorry for your losses, Rhy. Those words can mean little compared to their deaths. So close together can only make it harder. Have you been able to observe your mourning customs? You are some of the pieces to pick up and put back together.

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[info]goldenhelm
2018-07-09 05:44 am UTC (link)
There are, likewise, plenty of opinions about magic in my world and the connected ones. I have not traveled enough -- or much at all, truthfully -- to know them in any depth, however.

[...] Yes, it is. You are correct.

I am sorry for what you have endured, and also for your losses. [...] Although I am not familiar with AIs, there are some royals in my world who hold powerful magicians as tools. It is certainly not the same thing, but enough that I can try to imagine. Living, conscious beings should never be considered tools in the same way that a sword is.

Thank you, I appreciate the sentiment. [...] I was brought here before my parents were officially cremated. I was too busy trying to save other lives, and my whole world, from being consumed by the darkness. There was no time for putting myself back together before coming here, either, though the time I've had here has been helpful for that part, somewhat.

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[info]troopcarrier
2018-07-10 01:47 am UTC (link)
Many people live their whole lives on one station. You are far from alone on that.

Perhaps it is not a bad thing.

Thank you. They are kind words. [...] It is remarkable the ways people can treat living, conscious beings - even other humans - while protecting themselves with self-deception or willful blindness or hollow justifications. And should your sword become a living conscious being, it stops simply being a tool.

You are welcome. That is unfortunate that you were not able to see to their funerals. But at least the time here can be put to good use. There is rarely enough time for anyone simply to look to their emotional needs. Life demands more.

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[info]goldenhelm
2018-07-10 02:20 am UTC (link)
That's true. I am just rather bound in place by my duties, but I suppose anyone with duties to a family or a job would be in much the same position.

The lack of magic is not a bad thing. The hunger for it, to the point of doing something risky, was. But I have learned that lesson.

Yes, and even seemingly good people can get caught in that trap of justifying such treatment. My parents were among them. It was one of their worst decisions, and I haven't forgiven them for it, even though it was not me that they harmed that way.

I will go back and put them to rest eventually. As well as rebuild my city. Presumably that is happening at home anyway, even though I am here. That is the theory, at least.

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[info]troopcarrier
2018-07-10 03:25 am UTC (link)
We are all bound to something. Those duties may tie you to a place or to travel. But we have to choose, whether it is worth it to stay bound how we are.

I can imagine that would be. Good.

No matter how good we are, we can all do something horrible and wrong, when put in that circumstance, into one where our choices are few or look like none. Many people don't learn that until they do something awful. Then you can commit to it, or you can admit you made a mistake and change. You don't have to forgive them, even though they were your parents, even though they are dead.

A curious theory. Some physicists have written of technical possibilities, but this is the first I have experienced anything like it. What shapes the theory here?

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[info]goldenhelm
2018-07-10 03:39 am UTC (link)
My country and my people are worth it. I am not sorry to be bound to them.

I'm fairly certain of who I am, even in difficult times. There are already a number of horrible choices I know that I will never make. Many of them choices that my parents made on my behalf. I am very critical of them and there are many things I don't forgive them for, but I still love them and miss them. And that is just [...] how it will always be.

Mainly, the theory stems from the fact that people come from different points in timelines, and do not remember others disappearing. For instance, my brother is from a point in our timeline before me, but he did not disappear at that time, and my lover is from a time after me, but I was still there with him up until he left. The same holds true for many others, I think, since it is widely believed that our timelines at home are unaffected by our presence here.

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[info]troopcarrier
2018-07-10 03:52 am UTC (link)
I am glad for you.

We may still be presented with situations we do not expect. Even being here is unexpected. Who knows what else we will face? [...] Feelings are complicated. They do not always make sense or have to.

Any alternate theory I can imagine in the short time I have been here also involves multiple universes. But that would still, for the most part, make it effectively true. [...] If they are not affected, that is a blessing and a curse.

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[info]goldenhelm
2018-07-10 03:56 am UTC (link)
There are many possibilities here, many of them pleasant, though not always. When I arrived we were on a cruise ship, which docked in multiple different lands. They were quite fascinating. But the ship was also attacked by pirates, which was much less pleasant.

I hope they are not affected, because my world needs me. I do believe that the theory holds, but I still worry that it might not.

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[info]troopcarrier
2018-07-10 04:03 am UTC (link)
I do not easily lower my guard. It sounds prudent to be prepared for anything, with or without even that we have with us here. Was ship okay?

So far as it was explained to me, we can do nothing about it either way. We have to trust in others, if the theory doesn't hold.

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[info]goldenhelm
2018-07-10 04:10 am UTC (link)
Much of the ship's systems were disabled by the pirates, and there was some structural damage in places after the fight. But we repaired some of it, and the ship's robots took care of the rest of it. It was alright when we left it.

Yes, there does not seem to be much in the way of anything to do about it. I'm sure everyone here has something to worry about at home, even if many prefer to be here instead.

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[info]troopcarrier
2018-07-10 04:15 am UTC (link)
That is good to hear.

There are certainly many immediate concerns here. [...] Were Station and I both to return, I would choose that.

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[info]goldenhelm
2018-07-10 04:19 am UTC (link)
The [...] homes that come with people do seem to disappear at the same time as they do. At least that's what I've seen people say.

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[info]troopcarrier
2018-07-10 04:31 am UTC (link)
That is a small comfort. I would not want Station to be here alone.

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[info]goldenhelm
2018-07-10 04:38 am UTC (link)
Indeed not. Being here alone -- without anyone you personally know -- would be very difficult for anyone, even if there are others around.

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[info]troopcarrier
2018-07-10 04:40 am UTC (link)
It would be difficult. But it is a difficulty I am no stranger to in recent years.

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[info]goldenhelm
2018-07-10 04:48 am UTC (link)
Very often, multiple people from any given world will show up in a row. My brother was here for some time alone, and then my lover, and then me, not long after him. If there are others that you're missing, there is a strong possibility they will come here. Presuming, of course, that is something you might want.

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[info]troopcarrier
2018-07-10 04:57 am UTC (link)
Whether I would like their company is very different from whether being here is something I would want for them.

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[info]goldenhelm
2018-07-10 04:59 am UTC (link)
Yes, I understand that.

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