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The post from which the following quote originates, has been removed because it is offensive. But since I don't like for difficult topics to be swept under the carpet, I've been opening this thread.
I remind you that this community is for a discussion of books and fictional characters. It's not about discussing general principles. In this case, though, I feel that an exception needs to be made. Discussions always will have 'real world' elements, but they should be kept to a minimum. In this case things went too far.
totalreadr wrote: Oh, I dunno. The whole reason I couldn't get up much sympathy for Emmett Till over on terri's lj was because he was popular and "acting macho." In my reading on the case I even found his family quoted as expressing that his death was *especially* tragic because he *was* so popular! For me their cris de coeur Did Not Work As Intended in the same way that Gerda Weissman Klein's /All But My Life/ did not (http://raisin-gal.livejournal.com/1539.h
Emmett Till was popular, macho, had a bright future, etc....up north. Down south, none of that mattered because he was still black.
This is, indeed, a horrible thing to say, and for once I have to agree with the trolls who come here and shout their protest. Why is no one of the regulars protesting this? Do I have to open up the community for anonymous users to protest stuff like that? I'm trying to protect you guys and give you a niche, but that doesn't mean that stuff like this can just stand.
Racism can, perhaps, be debated in an academical manner when it is about fictional characters. This is about a real, horrible lynch murder. This is crossing the line.
Here's the link from ravenstar84 again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till
Yes, I know, like others who hang out on her journal she's one of the wank trolls. But sometimes the trolls are right.
This thread is now closed
I remind you that this community is for a discussion of books and fictional characters. It's not about discussing general principles. In this case, though, I feel that an exception needs to be made. Discussions always will have 'real world' elements, but they should be kept to a minimum. In this case things went too far.
totalreadr wrote: Oh, I dunno. The whole reason I couldn't get up much sympathy for Emmett Till over on terri's lj was because he was popular and "acting macho." In my reading on the case I even found his family quoted as expressing that his death was *especially* tragic because he *was* so popular! For me their cris de coeur Did Not Work As Intended in the same way that Gerda Weissman Klein's /All But My Life/ did not (http://raisin-gal.livejournal.com/1539.h
Emmett Till was popular, macho, had a bright future, etc....up north. Down south, none of that mattered because he was still black.
This is, indeed, a horrible thing to say, and for once I have to agree with the trolls who come here and shout their protest. Why is no one of the regulars protesting this? Do I have to open up the community for anonymous users to protest stuff like that? I'm trying to protect you guys and give you a niche, but that doesn't mean that stuff like this can just stand.
Racism can, perhaps, be debated in an academical manner when it is about fictional characters. This is about a real, horrible lynch murder. This is crossing the line.
Here's the link from ravenstar84 again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till
Yes, I know, like others who hang out on her journal she's one of the wank trolls. But sometimes the trolls are right.
This thread is now closed
-Fan of canon Snape
You claim to be new to fandom. Fandom_wank at all is a very bad place for newbies to get an idea about what fandom is all about, many of the posts there are from people who appear completely clueless. I can only hope that you find a few more enjoyable and sane venues for your particular ship/genre, get used to the deliberate madness and don't base your ideas on what you read on the hate/wank sites. Think about who makes definitions and who is the judge for what is what. The Emmett Till case is an exception. As long as the posts here, perceived something-ist whatever, are about the fictional world, things are different.
People on these wank sites make things personal. That's not what you do when you discuss a topic. Except for when something like the Emmet Till case happens. But in such a case, in future, I expect the regulars to be more alert and when in doubt, yell at me. I don't need the trolls from the wank site saying the same idiotic crap over and over and over again. They sound like a broken record and are very like the people here who discuss endlessly ad nauseum about a topic that leads nowhere.
The difference? People here do it on a site that allows them to do it and don't go and wank uninvited about it on other sites.