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Tweak says, "Ain't nobody got time for that"

Doop (xdoop) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-09-16 20:05:00

Current mood:	tired
Entry tags:	char: batgirl/oracle/barbara gordon, char: spoiler/robin/batgirl/steph brown, publisher: dc comics, title: batgirl

Batgirl #2

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	daningram 2009-09-17 12:27 pm UTC (link)
	Sure they get captured, but not as easily as Spoiler usually does. Everyone rags on the people mentoring Steph, but I don't recall any story off hand where she actually listened to instructions. She has a long habit of substituting her judgement for theirs and often comes up short. She's only alive because of the Batclan, not despite them. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

jarodrussell
2009-09-17 06:00 pm UTC (link)

Sure they get captured, but not as easily as Spoiler usually does.

If that statement were anywhere near reflecting reality, I...me...Pervy Stargirl Deathtrap Fiend...would be able to list more than two times, in almost fifteen years now (?), when Spoiler's been captured:

1. By her dad in her first outing (handcuffed to a bed)

2. In my icon (where she was used as bait for Tim, who was tied up)

At this point, in roughly the same period of time, Huntress has been (in nor particular order) teleport abducted by Prometheus, tied up by a gang of five year olds, captured by a hypnotized Vixen, grabbed by one of Blockbuster's goons, knocked out by a hypnotized Lady Blackhawk, etc. Huntress, the woman trained by Sicilian assassins and Richard Dragon.

...I don't recall any story off hand where she actually listened to instructions.

How about the time she was going to steal a soda from a convenience store she and Robin saved, he told her that was a slippery slope, and she adjusted her behavior? How about the time Cassandra showed her a move which Steph later used to defeat a disciple of Shiva's? I know those are kind of lame instances, but they do show she's not a complete brick wall.

She has a long habit of substituting her judgement for theirs and often comes up short.

Because no member of the Bat-family has ever thought their own ideas where better and ended up regretting it later on, that's never, ever, ever happened before Spoiler came along.

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daningram
2009-09-17 06:12 pm UTC (link)

Huntress gets taken down by metahumans and hard core professionals. Spoiler gets nabbed by *Cluemaster*.

Simply put, any comparison between them is unfair, as Huntress is in another weight class. And while Spoiler has listened to instructions every now and then, she makes a point of defying them on a regular basis. Cass had to knock her out three times because she didn't feel she could trust Steph to do the right thing.

And yeah, members of the Batclan have ignored Batman dozens of times. But in doing so, they shown their own good judgment and ability. When Steph does it, she acts short sighted and impulsive and loses control of the situation.

Simply because others have done something, does not mean someone else has the same ability. Especially in the Batclan, a collection of people who are either highly trained, highly intelligent, or both.

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	jarodrussell 2009-09-17 08:10 pm UTC (link)
	Huntress gets taken down by metahumans and hard core professionals. And a kindergarten class, you forgot them. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	daningram 2009-09-17 08:14 pm UTC (link)
	And yet, she still has a vastly superior track record compared to Spoiler ;) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	drsevarius 2009-09-17 09:27 pm UTC (link)
	what ish was this? (Reply to this) (Parent)

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