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drsevarius (drsevarius) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-09-03 11:48:00

Entry tags:

char: baron strucker, char: black widow/natasha romanova, char: green goblin/norman osborn, char: nick fury, char: songbird/melissa gold, creator: alessandro vitti, creator: jonathan hickman, group: thunderbolts, publisher: marvel comics, title: secret warriors

Secret Warriors #7

Strucker asks Osborn to kill Fury.

Later...

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	halloweenjack 2009-09-03 04:05 pm UTC (link)
	Those are some furrowed-ass brows on that cover. (Reply to this)

	damar148 2009-09-03 04:08 pm UTC (link)
	Mr. X? That's been a while. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	xdoop 2009-09-03 05:52 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, he just came back a couple of issues ago in T-Bolts. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	sherkahn 2009-09-03 04:49 pm UTC (link)
	Who is the field leader? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	espanolbot 2009-09-03 05:02 pm UTC (link)
	Hm, I'm thinking the Cross-Bones (I think that's the name of the guy who shot Cap) for some reason. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	xdoop 2009-09-03 05:52 pm UTC (link)
	The new Scourge. We don't officially know his identity, though it's probably Nuke (the Daredevil villain from "Born Again.") (Reply to this) (Parent)

	mullon 2009-09-03 05:18 pm UTC (link)
	Meathead contest! (Reply to this)

	icon_uk 2009-09-03 05:44 pm UTC (link)
	Have to say, Strucker's reaction to the news of his children's deaths is a rather Magnificent Bastard moment. (Reply to this) (Thread)

Agreed.

box_in_the_box
2009-09-03 06:16 pm UTC (link)

And the fact that Norman expected any other reaction from Strucker simply serves as yet another example of how profoundly unqualified Norman is to be the "master manipulator" that Marvel insists on portraying him as, because in terms of how well he understands other people, Norman is, and always has been, so profoundly socially dysfunctional that he makes even nerdy Peter Parker look like the epitome of smooth grace by comparison. The only credible way that Norman's takeover of the Marvel Universe can be believed is if you buy off on him being as charming and as gifted at reading other people as Joe Quesada thinks Norman is, but the reality is that Norman is so openly psychotic that trusting him not to fuck up, in a way that should destroy his entire power-base, is like trusting Pat Buchanan to avoid saying stupid shit about the Jews.

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	Re: Agreed. xdoop 2009-09-03 06:28 pm UTC (link)
	I think he's just saying "Haha, I killed your children." I don't think he's really trying to get a reaction out of Strucker; even though they're insulting each other, Strucker still wants Norman to do something for him. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: Agreed.

box_in_the_box
2009-09-03 06:34 pm UTC (link)

I think he's just saying "Haha, I killed your children." I don't think he's really trying to get a reaction out of Strucker [...]

On the contrary - check out Norman's evil grin of glee as he tells Strucker "I killed your kids," and his disappointed frown after Strucker basically tells him, "Thank you for doing so." Norman clearly wanted to get under Strucker's skin, and the fact that he thought that line would do it shows how profoundly he misunderstands Strucker

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	Re: Agreed. ashtoreth 2009-09-04 12:01 am UTC (link)
	It vaguely amused me that Norman emphasized 'SON', because Norman is so chauvinistically fixated on the notion of the worthy heir. Whereas I think Strucker had the briefest respect only for his daughter. Not that he cares about family really.. (Reply to this) (Parent)

Re: Agreed.

box_in_the_box
2009-09-03 06:40 pm UTC (link)

Or to put it another way, even in the context of a playful insult contest between Norman and Strucker, Norman's comments make no sense, given Strucker's character and his feelings toward his own children. When someone is a psycho who considers their kids to be as much of a disappointment as Strucker saw Andrea and Andreas, telling them "I killed your kids" is like trying to insult a guy by telling him, "Oh, yeah? Well ... YOU HAVE A HUGE PENIS!" It doesn't really WORK as something that's going to BOTHER them, in other words.

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	Re: Agreed. icon_uk 2009-09-03 06:44 pm UTC (link)
	telling them "I killed your kids" is like trying to insult a guy by telling him, "Oh, yeah? Well ... YOU HAVE A HUGE PENIS!" Well, shit, no wonder I don't win many arguments. On the other hand, play your cards right and you get PHENOMENAL make-up sex! ;) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: Agreed. xdoop 2009-09-03 06:51 pm UTC (link)
	When someone is a psycho who considers their kids to be as much of a disappointment as Strucker saw Andrea and Andreas Was he always portrayed that way? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Agreed. box_in_the_box 2009-09-03 06:54 pm UTC (link)
	Even in his milder moments, I don't EVER recall him being portrayed as a proud papa, which makes sense when you consider that he's old-world nobility with a genuinely held sense of ideology, whereas his kids are pretty much decadent nihilistic Eurotrash who always had a slightly Millar-esque sibling relationship. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: Agreed. icon_uk 2009-09-03 06:42 pm UTC (link)
	He definitely seems to be doing it to get a rise out of Strucker, and then sulks when Strucker out-bad-asses him so effortlessly. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Agreed. box_in_the_box 2009-09-03 06:55 pm UTC (link)
	Yes, thank you. My point exactly. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2009-09-03 05:46 pm UTC (link)
	Very Metal Gear-ish. (Reply to this)

	sd_mouser 2009-09-03 06:48 pm UTC (link)
	Is that Paladin in the back left? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	xdoop 2009-09-03 06:49 pm UTC (link)
	Yes. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	midnightvoyager 2009-09-03 07:16 pm UTC (link)
	Sulk moar Emoborn. (Reply to this)

freeman333
2009-09-03 07:20 pm UTC (link)

Dear God, I hope they aren't giving Norman Thorazine. That shit is ancient, extremely sedating (which would indicate that it's not what Norm's on, I'm guessing) and hardly ever used any more. Then again, Strucker's not exactly a spring chicken, so he may be a bit out of date on his psychopharmacology.

(Interestingly, Lamictal is a mood stabilizer, and Xanax is used for anxiety. What is it exactly that Strucker sees Norm as having? Or did the writer just put down the first three medications that came to mind? I'd probably set Norm up with some Abilify, seeing as how it's used to treat symptoms common to both psychosis and mania, such as grandiosity or delusions.)

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	midnightvoyager 2009-09-03 07:40 pm UTC (link)
	He may just be going "God only KNOWS what you even have, your brain is so screwed." ...And Thorazine might help Normie out a bit. He could use some sedation. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	khamelea 2009-09-03 07:48 pm UTC (link)
	"Then again, Strucker's not exactly a spring chicken, so he may be a bit out of date on his psychopharmacology." I'd like to send this letter to the Prussian consulate in Siam by aeromail. Am I too late for the 4:30 autogyro? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	freeman333 2009-09-03 08:44 pm UTC (link)
	This book must be out of date: I don't see "Prussia", "Siam", or "autogyro". (Reply to this) (Parent)

	icon_uk 2009-09-03 09:15 pm UTC (link)
	Strucker as voiced by Mongomery Burns works rather well... (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	the_jeff 2009-09-04 01:12 am UTC (link)
	"see my vest, see my vest, made out of my children's chest's!" (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-09-04 01:24 am UTC (link)
	That is very, very wrong. You win! ;) (Reply to this) (Parent)