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superfan1 ([info]superfan1) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-08-11 01:14:00

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Entry tags:creator: fred van lente, creator: ryan dunlavey, theme: objectivism, title: action philosophers

Action Philosophers #2
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[info]une_croix
2009-08-11 06:36 am UTC (link)
I really want to pick these books up.

Maybe when BookDepository is back up...

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[info]darklorelei
2009-08-11 06:41 am UTC (link)
I love Action Philosophers.

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[info]foxhack
2009-08-11 07:22 am UTC (link)
After reading this, I can honestly say...

Whoever follows this is fucked in the head.

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[info]foxhack
2009-08-11 07:24 am UTC (link)
Also, according to the second scan, Objectivism was the cure for the Anti-Life Equation in Final Crisis. :p

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[info]heat16
2009-08-11 11:16 am UTC (link)
Which might explain Steve Ditko.

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[info]darkknightjrk
2009-08-11 07:23 am UTC (link)
Oh my God I must have this book, and whatever else they have. I love how Jesus is hopping away on the cross, and she's just standing all nonchelant going, "Yeah, that's right--I'm Ayn Rand, bitch."

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[info]lissa_quon
2009-08-11 07:39 am UTC (link)
Interesting comic, nice way of summing Ayn Rand up.

Sadly my reaction to this is "and thanks to Bioshock we all know now what Objectivism leads to...massive underwater cities taken over by genetic freaks"

But seriously, I actually think this philosophy is just an intellectual's way of wanking of. They do what they want to because they can and claim the sun shines out of their arse.

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(no subject) - [info]artnouveauho.livejournal.com, 2009-08-11 01:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mullon, 2009-08-11 08:38 pm UTC

[info]ulf_boehnke
2009-08-11 08:19 am UTC (link)
Don't forget the lost second book of her trilogy: Atlas Shrugged 2: Shrug Harder

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(no subject) - [info]une_croix, 2009-08-11 08:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]halloweenjack, 2009-08-11 01:46 pm UTC
Boom.
[info]jelly_ace
2009-08-11 08:55 am UTC (link)
And my mind ceases to function.

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[info]ian_karkull
2009-08-11 09:23 am UTC (link)
Considering her history, you can sort of see where Rand is coming from, unfortunately, that does not make her less of a bitch (or her writing any less awful).

Either way, Action Philosophers is brilliant and everyone should read it. Marvel made a smart move when they contracted Van Lente.

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(no subject) - [info]darkknightjrk, 2009-08-11 11:11 pm UTC

[info]lonewolf23k
2009-08-11 10:47 am UTC (link)
I dunno, I kinda appreciate the reasoning of the basic principles:
-Make decisions based on reason, not emotion.
-Don't do something just because an "authority" figure tells you to, but because you think it's reasonable.
-The fruits of your labour are your own, not anyone else's.

Mind you, I disagree about the idea that altruism is so wrong. Didn't she ever hear of enlightened self-interest?

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(no subject) - [info]colonel_green, 2009-08-11 02:10 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]ashtoreth, 2009-08-11 09:11 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]colonel_green, 2009-08-12 01:28 pm UTC

[info]carolcarolcarol
2009-08-11 11:38 am UTC (link)
I'm going into Ayn-overload. There was a pretty extensive article in the New York Times last week about how Wall Streeters worship her.

I love that Greenspan was mentioned here, but the writer should have cleared up how her name is pronounced. It's long-i I-n, not Ann.

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[info]taggerung301
2009-08-11 12:50 pm UTC (link)
Well, not a big fan of Rand as a writer, but I do kinda like the artist's style here

just kinda wish it was with something else

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(no subject) - [info]ian_karkull, 2009-08-11 02:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]foxhack, 2009-08-11 03:58 pm UTC

[info]tahngarth
2009-08-11 01:02 pm UTC (link)
All I can hear is "ANTI-LIFE JUSTIFIES MY HATE"

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(no subject) - [info]midnightvoyager, 2009-08-11 02:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]proteus_lives, 2009-08-12 08:15 am UTC
Fountainhead !
[info]volksjager
2009-08-11 01:24 pm UTC (link)
I need to dig out my "Big Book of ____" and post from them.

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Re: Fountainhead ! - [info]majingojira, 2009-08-11 01:28 pm UTC

[info]majingojira
2009-08-11 01:27 pm UTC (link)
Why does this remind me of the Big Book series?

Not that doing so is a BAD thing...

But as far as Philosophies go, I think I'll stick with a mixture of Humanism and Absurdism.

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(no subject) - [info]volksjager, 2009-08-11 01:56 pm UTC
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[info]halloweenjack
2009-08-11 01:49 pm UTC (link)
Furious Jilted Cyborg Ayn Rand is my nominee for Supervillain of the Day.

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I need a facepalm icon
[info]runespoor7
2009-08-11 02:28 pm UTC (link)
"...individual achievement was rewarded, not confiscated."

Because becoming a pharmacist in USSR would've been in no way dependent on the family's wealth before that. Bourgeoisie as the height of individual achievement? As something than anyone would be able to reach provided they were sufficiently anything in a society where meritocracy wasn't the norm? Really?

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(no subject) - [info]runespoor7, 2009-08-11 03:02 pm UTC

[info]starwolf_oakley
2009-08-11 02:58 pm UTC (link)
I'm starting to realize that Brian Michael Bendis may have put a lot of Rand's ideas and philosophy into ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN.

ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN #122 had Ultimate Shocker ranting about how his great invention was going to be stolen by Roxxon executives who could never "create" anything. Spider-Man didn't see how being smart enough to create "shockers" justified robbing banks, but Shocker was crazy.

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(no subject) - [info]taggerung301, 2009-08-11 04:53 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]darkknightjrk, 2009-08-11 11:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]darklorelei, 2009-08-12 02:29 am UTC
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[info]thanekos
2009-08-11 03:09 pm UTC (link)
as someone pointed out once, up in the " the lazies should be grateful for trickle-down... "

look, it's Tony Stark, objectivist!

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[info]mysteryfan
2009-08-11 04:54 pm UTC (link)
That was great. I just picked up the Joseph Campbell one, but I like this one better.

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[info]punishermax
2009-08-11 06:48 pm UTC (link)
Objectivism is just a bullshit excuse rich people use to never give money to charity to help other people.

"Hmm, you say your mother is working 2 jobs and you have no food? Well it's time to pull up your bootstraps and get in the coal mine you ignorant child!" ~smokes cigar, snaps suspenders~

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(no subject) - [info]runespoor7, 2009-08-11 10:42 pm UTC

[info]re_weird
2009-08-12 02:54 am UTC (link)
I really want to buy this series now. Would it be available in any US comic store?

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[info]proteus_lives
2009-08-12 08:17 am UTC (link)
I love Action Philosophers.

And while I don't agree with Rand, I can understand why she went down this path, growing up in the hell of Soviet Russia.

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[info]psychop_rex
2009-08-12 09:56 pm UTC (link)
The thing with Ayn Rand is that, while I agree that she was batshit crazy, I DO agree with some of the things she says. As a creative person myself, I definitely want to be able to take the credit for the stuff I do, and be guided by what I think is morally right and just, not what other people think is right and just. We all have to be guided by our own minds and consciences, and if one lives only for other people, one ultimately winds up living a very unfulfilling life. It's the 'A is A' part where she starts going crazy - if you refuse to allow for subtleties and grey areas, you're not taking into account a good two-thirds of life. Also, I think she had a faulty understanding of what altruism IS. Altruism is not 'bowing to the will of the unwashed masses and those who claim to represent them'; altruism is doing something selfless for someone else because you can, because you feel sympathy for that other person or persons. If you never practice altruism, then you never give anyone birthday presents, or drive a friend home, or a myriad of other things that one does out of a sense of basic decency. Basically, one must be true to oneself, but if one doesn't at least acknowledge the presence of others, and try to get along with them, then one lives an awfully lonely life.
Oh, and yes, Jesus bouncing away on his cross is pretty damn funny.

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