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Doop (xdoop) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-07-21 07:43:00

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char: eclipso, char: elongated man/ralph dibny, char: jean loring, char: spectre, char: sue dibny, creator: geoff johns, creator: grant morrison, creator: greg rucka, creator: mark waid, creator: shawn moll, publisher: dc comics, title: 52

Jean Loring in 52

This is from 52 Week Twenty-Seven. It's written by Geoff Johns, Grant Morrison, Greg Rucka, and Mark Waid; the breakdowns are by Keith Giffen and the pencils by Shawn Moll. The cover is by J.G. Jones.

Ralph Dibny is traveling with the helm of Doctor Fate (really Felix Faust in disguise) trying to find a way to bring back Sue. In this issue he asks the Spectre if he can bring her back to him; the Spectre grins and replies "Absolutely."

In the 52 trade paperback one of the writers said that this was correcting a continuity error from Identity Crisis #1; when Sue is waiting for Ralph she hears a sound coming from inside the house. You're meant to think it's the killer, except Jean traveled to the Dibnys' home via the phone lines.

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	ladymirth 2009-07-21 02:25 pm UTC (link)
	...WOAH! That's intense! I wonder what would happen if the same thing could be done to the Joker? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	blake_reitz 2009-07-21 02:30 pm UTC (link)
	There was an issue of JLA, I think, where they went deep into the Joker's twisted psyche and found a not-crazy guy living there, among all the chaos. So, maybe? I get the feeling thought it would end up with a Spectre-powered Joker, ala Emperor Joker. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

icon_uk
2009-07-21 03:00 pm UTC (link)

I remember the "normal man at the heart of the Joker" story, which I liked. It does seem to conflict with the likes of Chuck Dixon's take on the Joker, where The Last Laugh mentioned that the Joker's brain was literally physically warped by his acid bath, so his brain structure is unique and abnormal, and so he's essentially incapable of ever being restored to sanity.

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	cowtasticism 2009-07-21 06:09 pm UTC (link)
	There was also a Batman Black & White story that explains that the Joker might not by crazy at all. Something about him just being sadistic and evil and just pretending to be insane. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	xdoop 2009-07-21 06:16 pm UTC (link)
	Except when Martian Manhunter made him temporarily sane in Morrison's run, he was remorseful. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	cowtasticism 2009-07-21 06:33 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Batman B&W thing isn't canon since none of the other B&W stories are. It was just an interesting view on the Joker thing. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-07-21 07:23 pm UTC (link)
	Indeed, it's a good notion, and also suggested IIRC in "Under the Hood", where Jason suggests the Joker isn't nearly as nuts as he pretends to be. (Reply to this) (Parent)

zechs27
2009-07-21 09:55 pm UTC (link)

It's probably cannon since in the end the very nature of it is called into question at the end when it's revealed the report was written by Harley Quinn when she interned at Arkham.

The more seasoned of the two Arkham guards who where discussing it then tells the one who found the report to just get rid of it and forget about it. The fact that it was written by a woman who went mad becoming Joker's #1 fangirl. Hence once more offering up that multiple choice option of Joker's origin. That sometimes it could be one way and other times another. It all depends on what deck is dealt in Mista J's mind at the time. God that was the only worth wild part of Countdown, those Villain Origins.

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	aaron_bourque 2009-07-21 09:50 pm UTC (link)
	Meh. The Joker's crazy. Is he as crazy as he acts? That's the question. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	comicoz 2009-07-21 03:07 pm UTC (link)
	JLA #35, one of the Day of Judgement tie ins with Hal as Spectre I think. Just re-read it a month or so ago, good story! (Reply to this) (Parent)

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