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the_black_cat_ (the_black_cat_) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-06-18 06:05:00

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char: aqualad/tempest/garth, char: batman/bruce wayne, char: flash/kid flash/wally west, char: robin/nightwing/dick grayson, group: teen titans, publisher: dc comics, title: teen titans: year one

Hello- I need help on information

This is the Black Cat, you know the nut that does the Batman and Sons webcomic. :)

I need some help on some information concerning Jason Todd's stepmother, Catherine Todd. I have a person who posted on my Deviantart account that she was a drug addict. I searched through my collection but found nothing referring to this. All I know is she died of an illness.

Does anyone know if this is true?

I will appreciate the help. :)

Thank you, and also, I want to thank you all for the great support you have given me for the webcomic.

Have a great day!

TBC

And image... I hope I did everything right.

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	crinosg 2009-06-18 08:36 am UTC (link)
	Welcome to the community. Big fan of your work. Anyways, I'm not the biggest Jason Todd buff, but this is the first I've heard of such a thing. I also heard she just died of an illness. Unless this is something that's come post Death in the family. (Reply to this) (Thread)

sherkahn
2009-06-18 08:48 am UTC (link)

Normally I would also say "motto" or something to "I agree" but time and effort and respect must be paid.

LOVE your work, Black_Cat. Every image and post you make of Batman and Sons makes my day, heck, makes my MONTH. The world is a better place with your tributes out there.

As for the Jason Todd art, wish I could help, but I know the community will do there best to oblige.

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	tanetris 2009-06-18 12:08 pm UTC (link)
	Bigtime motto. Huge frickin motto. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	the_black_cat_ 2009-06-18 08:52 pm UTC (link)
	I remember when I posted the first story (Back to the Cave), wondering if I made the biggest and most embarrassing mistake in my (artistic) life. I have to say, I'm still taken back on how much this series has been embraced. I can never say it enough: Thank you. :) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	the_black_cat_ 2009-06-18 08:32 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you, but I have been a lurker since daily_scans started here. :) (Reply to this) (Parent)

daggerpen
2009-06-18 09:34 am UTC (link)

I've heard both versions of her death, though I can't link to scans for either one, I'm afraid. I've also seen a version where it was a combination of both (I believe she became ill, presumably with HIV/AIDs, through a contaminated needle, and died as a result of that), but that was in fanon.

Regardless, I don't believe there's definitive canon that would make it either, so it's up to your discretion, I suppose.

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	shadwing 2009-06-18 10:08 am UTC (link)
	The only image I can find (I don't have it scanned dang it) is in Death in the Family where it just shows her hooked up to a resperator and notes "...her life was cut short by an illness that didn't care how much love she had in her heart" (Reply to this) (Parent)

	retro_nouveau 2009-06-18 09:52 am UTC (link)
	Hi! Just want to say: You ain't nothin' but a real cool breeze! (Reply to this)

	superfan1 2009-06-18 10:18 am UTC (link)
	Yep in Batman issue 409, she dies from a OD. But in Batman issue 426, she dies from an illness. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	lover_youshould 2009-06-18 10:43 am UTC (link)
	This is purely speculation, but one could always argue that perhaps she OD's from drugs she was taking to cope with said illness. Cheap medical care, etc. I don't think it would be much of a stretch to assume that the Todds didn't have health insurance. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	janegray 2009-06-18 02:36 pm UTC (link)
	Considering that horribly wrecked state of Jason's room when Batman found him, frankly I doubt Catherine Todd could afford any medical care at all. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	sir_razorback 2009-06-18 11:49 am UTC (link)
	I bet they decided to soften up her death for the kidlets when they wrote the more recent reference. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	runespoor7 2009-06-18 12:10 pm UTC (link)
	In the same arc they decided to get their Robin beaten to death while his birth mother was having a smoke and then blown up, they must've had strange priorities. :p Maybe they just didn't do the research. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	lipsofpoison 2009-06-18 01:25 pm UTC (link)
	Has that been brought up since Jason's been back? Not his death but Shiela? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	runespoor7 2009-06-18 01:57 pm UTC (link)
	Actually, I don't know. Sheila being tied up and Jason untying her before the bomb explodes has been used in flashbacks since then. Sheila lighting up a smoke is so deeply ingrained in my Jason canon, though, I'm not sure how I'd take a retcon. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	lipsofpoison 2009-06-18 01:59 pm UTC (link)
	I don't think it has been brought up, which was actually my first thought for a repressed memory, but since rereading, I don't think it is. Still, I don't want it retconned. That scene is too important to me too. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	janegray 2009-06-18 02:30 pm UTC (link)
	Maybe, since Jason's biological mother was such a monster, they wanted to imply that at least his adoptive mother had been a good parent? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	runespoor7 2009-06-18 03:15 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, maybe. I'm not sure I'd say she was his adoptive mother, though; he didn't find out she wasn't his biological mother until he found his birth certificate. It wasn't a formal adoption, it seemed to be more that Jason's father had remarried and she raised Jason. She may also have been a good mother until she died of an OD, as well. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	aaron_bourque 2009-06-18 12:04 pm UTC (link)
	Wow. I had no idea Catherine Todd had any kind of connection to drugs at all. And for ME to learn something new about BATMAN . . . (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	the_black_cat_ 2009-06-18 09:19 pm UTC (link)
	I feel the same way. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	aaron_bourque 2009-06-19 12:54 am UTC (link)
	Seriously, it's like learning that he dies his hair, or that he learned the piano from the Mad Hatter, or something. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	lipsofpoison 2009-06-18 01:23 pm UTC (link)
	Well, she died of an illness which could well have had to do with drugs, which has always been how I saw it. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	sherkahn 2009-06-18 02:13 pm UTC (link)
	Would this be tied into the "horrible thing" that Bruce knew about? At the end of Battle for the Cowl, Jason fought Dick, and Dick hit a nerve when he brought up the horrible experience of his youth, and that he could get help. Speculation: Did Jason cause his mom to OD, or buy her the drugs that would weaken her immune system? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	janegray 2009-06-18 02:40 pm UTC (link)
	Speculation: Did Jason cause his mom to OD, or buy her the drugs that would weaken her immune system? I would definitely prefer that over the "Jason was raped by child-molesters!" possibility. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	the_black_cat_ 2009-06-18 09:20 pm UTC (link)
	Awww. What a cute icon. :) (Reply to this) (Parent)

the_black_cat_
2009-06-18 09:16 pm UTC (link)

Thank you!

Twice in my life, I had to give up buying comics due to financial issues. One of those times was when Jason's origins were being revamped, missed the whole thing! But I did catch up later on 'Death in Family', should have gone back a bit further. I'm sure one day, they'll revise the whole thing but I hope they'll show Jason's stepmother trying her best to be a good 'mom' to him. He deserves that.

Thank you all for saving me from embarrassing myself with the poster at Deviantart.

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	sistermagpie 2009-06-18 10:25 am UTC (link)
	Glad superfan could provide the actual scans--I knew I'd heard both illness and drug addict but couldn't be sure where. But I have to ask--whose yellow boot is that kicking Kid Flash? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-06-18 10:35 am UTC (link)
	His own, he really is THAT fast! :D Actually, it's a miscoloured Aqualad boot. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	faile_neume 2009-06-19 03:01 am UTC (link)
	They fixed that mistake in the TPB. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	icon_uk 2009-06-18 10:37 am UTC (link)
	Oh and as for "I hope I did everything right", I think I speak for all of us when I say that THAT is putting it mildly! :D (Reply to this)

	lover_youshould 2009-06-18 10:45 am UTC (link)
	Re: the scan: That's one of my favorite TT:Y1 moments, if only for Aqualad and Kid Flash's reactions to Batman. Aqualad's blush~ <333 (Reply to this)

	his_spiffyness 2009-06-18 12:22 pm UTC (link)
	Boy, they could do some major damage with those pointy knees of theirs... (Reply to this)

	lipsofpoison 2009-06-18 01:20 pm UTC (link)
	I've been on a massive reread of Jason's stuff quite recently so I'm pretty sure on this one. It's definitely implied that Jason's mother is an addict, though never explicitly said. (Reply to this)

	liarashadowsong 2009-06-18 08:01 pm UTC (link)
	'Fraid I don't really know anything about Catherine Todd. Just wanted to pop in and say that I absolutely love your Batman and Sons webcomic. <3 (Reply to this)