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cyberghostface (cyberghostface) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-06-07 18:49:00

Entry tags:

char: green goblin/norman osborn, char: gwen stacy, char: spider-man/peter parker, creator: humberto ramos, creator: paul jenkins, series: one perfect moment week, title: peter parker spider-man

One Perfect Moment: The Green Goblin

This is from Peter Parker: Spider-Man Vol 2. #46.

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	sandoz_iscariot 2009-06-07 06:04 pm UTC (link)
	God, Ramos art. It looks like Peter's head is made out of stretched-out silly putty in that last panel. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	jlroberson 2009-06-07 06:46 pm UTC (link)
	There's a place for expressionistic caricature in comics, and certainly superhero comics. Ditko trademarked it. But he did it without deforming the characters. This is just too...much. And it looks like art for small children's comics. Which is inappropriate to this scene. It makes everything dramatic fall flat. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	angelophile 2009-06-07 06:07 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, never really clicked with Jenkin's Goblin. He always seemed to be channeling The Joker more than being like the Norman that's been depicted outside of this run. Even down to The Killing Joke moment with Peter and Norman giggling over a shared joke (that was from this story, right?). (Reply to this) (Thread)

	xdoop 2009-06-07 06:08 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

jlroberson
2009-06-07 06:49 pm UTC (link)

This is true. The Joker and the Goblin may be in the same general category, but they're not at all the same. For instance, the Joker's obsession with Batman is of a totally different character than the Goblin's with Spidey. The Joker views it more as a game and actually wants to kill everyone EXCEPT Batman. Whereas Norman is much more like if Luthor were bipolar. Except that he doesn't BLAME his failure on Spidey exactly. It's more like Norman's elaborate way of denying his illness, the real reason for his failures in family and business. Unlike Luthor, he doesn't blame this on the hero--he takes it out on him. I think you might best look at Norman as an abuser writ large.

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starwolf_oakley
2009-06-07 09:31 pm UTC (link)

Well, an interesting hook about Luthor and Joker is that neither man is as sane or crazy as he seems, or even thinks. Luthor has to have something of an imbalance if he thinks everyone will THANK him for getting rid of Superman. And the Joker... well, Jason Todd put it best: the Joker's "mad clown" act is the only way he can even remotely justify the horrible things he does.

Norman could be the same. He has to pretend the Green Goblin formula drove him crazy, or else he's probably have committed suicide from guilt.

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	xdoop 2009-06-07 10:32 pm UTC (link)
	well, Jason Todd put it best: the Joker's "mad clown" act is the only way he can even remotely justify the horrible things he does. There's plenty of evidence to show that it's more than an act, such as "Rock of Ages" and "Going Sane." (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	btravage.livejournal.com 2009-08-23 05:13 am UTC (link)
	Sometimes... (Reply to this) (Parent)

psychop_rex
2009-06-08 02:32 am UTC (link)

I actually kinda liked that moment. I always find it interesting when the relationship between old enemies is explored. In a way, each knows the other better than anyone else - you hold back around the ones you love, but with the ones you HATE, you open up like a sunflower and show them - PUMMEL them with, in fact - the real you. They've each taken advantage of each other's weaknesses and seen each other's strengths. Sure, they hate each other, but in a twisted sort of way, they're almost friends, and every now and then this is acknowledged - and it's always interesting when it is.

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	rabican 2009-06-09 01:28 am UTC (link)
	Honestly, I find that moment more convincing from Peter and Norman - they've got a sick sort of intimacy because they've been at loggerheads so long not just as hero and villain, but as abusive father and son's best friend. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	foxhack 2009-06-07 06:09 pm UTC (link)
	I smell sitcom! Spidey and Green Gobliiiiiiiiiin gets shot at by Deadpool I said it was copyrighted, bitch! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	hybrid2 2009-06-07 06:24 pm UTC (link)
	LOL!!!! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	erlgirl_9 2009-06-07 06:40 pm UTC (link)
	Somebody needs to post some Deadpool perfect moments. Because you know there are more than one of them... man, I wish I had his original series on hand now. That whole arc with Wade, Terry, and Killebrew was genius. Also his angsting after the whole saviour-of-the-universe debacle. God I loved that series. Okay. Must get more... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	domino_blue 2009-06-07 06:47 pm UTC (link)
	I...like this hell it's one of my favorite Spider-man arcs and I love reading it even with the art. (Reply to this)

	crinosg 2009-06-07 07:25 pm UTC (link)
	And to think; that guy is pretty much running the MU at this point. ...FUUUUUUUUUU..... (Reply to this)

	akodo_rokku 2009-06-07 09:41 pm UTC (link)
	I was kind of expecting to see Norman's fantastic rant from Thunderbolts here. Ah, I wish I had those scans... (Reply to this)

	itspizzatime 2009-06-07 10:55 pm UTC (link)
	hey that second panel kind of hits at that Sins Past story arc when Norman reveals to have slept with Gwen! (Reply to this)

	arrlaari.livejournal.com 2009-06-08 01:29 am UTC (link)
	Hey, that's how GG looked in the cartoon! Man I keep seeing things in these cartoons based on comics that I think are original to the show and then "Nope actually that's from the comics." Like the entire Terra subplot in Teen Titans. (Reply to this)

	ian_karkull 2009-06-08 03:05 am UTC (link)
	And that guy is pretty much in charge of the United States now. The very idea makes me lol every time. (Reply to this)