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runespoor7 ([info]runespoor7) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-06-07 21:34:00

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Entry tags:char: batgirl/cassandra cain, char: batman/bruce wayne, creator: dylan horrocks, creator: rick leonardi, series: one perfect moment week, title: batgirl

Cass Cain's one perfect moment
From Batgirl #50.



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[info]jarodrussell
2009-06-08 03:30 pm UTC (link)
It's sexist that Cass can't just have those feelings of obsession (like Tim) but instead has to have hers openly sexualized.

I'm probably stepping in it here, but I would argue that it's not so much sexualized as it is physicalized. Anything we see her doing is best compared to someone with Asperger syndrome hearing the words but not understanding the tone. We can see what she does, but the core of her character's origin states, we're tone-blind to the subtleties of it.

If this was Babs or Steph in that position, I'd agree with you, but given the nature of Cass's upbringing and talent, I think there's room to assume a chunk of her motivations are unknown and alien to us.

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[info]mysteryfan
2009-06-08 08:27 pm UTC (link)
Hmm. Let me go reread the issue.

My issue may or may not be actually so much with what Cass does, as much as how it's supposed to titillate us, if that makes sense.

Like Bab's narrating for us about the 'Kiss or Kill.' It feels like a big, big nudge nudge wink wink to me.

But anyway, I'll reread and see if I still think so (I think I will, but I could change my mind) and I'll respond.

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[info]mysteryfan
2009-06-12 10:16 pm UTC (link)
Okay, I've been rereading (and sometimes, first-time reading) a lot of BG series 1.

And man, that's a pretty good title so far. Some issues being phenomenal. I shall keep going.

But I did overreact in my um... reaction to this, upon rereading the entire issue.

And it's weird, because the first time I read this, a while back, I remember being kind of squicked about the body language in the art, then this repost triggered that response again. So that panel 1 and 3 do evoke a response in me.

And I do think the 'kiss or kill' is needlessly reader titillating.

But I do love this arc, and (despite the fact that I still think there's a weird level of sexualization of some sort, and I don't like it--but at least, if it IS there, it's very short-lived. And if I squint I can pretend I'm just imagining it.) that it's not as bad as I thought it was earlier in this thread.

So thanks to you and to Runespoor7 and Bluefall and this thread for making me look harder into the BG series 1. So much good stuff there.

I love her character so much. And I'm up to more than half of the series (not all in order, though) and I'm very happy with the way her interactions with Bruce are written, out of what I've read so far, 98% of the time.

So I'll cut this issue some slack and keep reading.

I'll know more after I finish the series, but that's my take at the moment.

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