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Matt ([info]angelophile) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-05-27 22:18:00

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J. Jonah Jameson - He's like an onion


One of the things that aggravates me about Spider-man's "new direction" is that in addition to attempting to take Peter's character back several years (and thus making him a loser, basement dwelling man-child) they've also been rewinding the clock on several members of his supporting cast.

Take, for example, J. Jonah Jameson, who's been returned to his Spidey-hating roots and now that seems to be the entirety of his character again. A damn shape after several years where Triple-J was shown, not to be just a great newspaperman but sometimes, a great man as well. Okay, still a cigar chomping a-hole, but not exclusively so. Take, for example, his cameos in Uncanny X-men #337-#346, where he proves himself to be the kind of guy I could buy the people of New York voting for.




First let's check in with political candidate and mutant-hater Graydon Creed (the love-child of Mystique and Sabretooth. Literally. With parents like that it's small wonder he has grudge against mutants.)





Next issue J.J.'s not quite so glowing.



That's an undercover Iceman there, by the way. Before he was outed and Creed had his father almost beaten to death. Presidential material right there. Anyway, Peter Parker gives the X-men the heads up that J.J.'s investigating Creed, assuming that he's gunning for mutants this time so they follow him. Inconspicuously of course.



Meanwhile, the reporter J.J. put on the case discovers Creed's true parentage. Unfortunately for him, that's a secret that Prime Sentinel Bastion doesn't want coming out, since Creed serves his purposes. So he kills the story.





Which leads to this confrontation:















Now that is a J. Jonah Jameson I can get behind.



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[info]nonnyeve
2009-05-27 05:02 pm UTC (link)
JJJ

Big Damn Journalistic Hero

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[info]midnightvoyager
2009-05-27 05:45 pm UTC (link)
GIP is gratuitous.

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[info]midnightvoyager
2009-05-27 05:45 pm UTC (link)
Er. I didn't mean to reply to you. *COUGH* But, uh, that too.

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[info]sir_razorback
2009-05-27 05:24 pm UTC (link)
That's a JJJ who likes to hit the gym by the looks of it. I could imagine him running around new York in thights. No mask though, he hates those. Maybe calling himself the Geezinator!

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[info]filbypott
2009-05-27 06:10 pm UTC (link)
That makes me wonder... does JJJ hate supers who don't conceal their identity?

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(no subject) - [info]icon_uk, 2009-05-27 06:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]espanolbot, 2009-05-27 07:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]broblawsky, 2009-05-27 10:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]unknownscribler, 2009-05-29 02:13 am UTC

[info]sir_razorback
2009-05-27 05:33 pm UTC (link)
Icon of riteous anger!!! :p

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[info]vignettelante
2009-05-27 10:46 pm UTC (link)
ahhhhh gonna be seeing that in my nightmares tonight :|

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[info]hyperactivator
2009-05-27 05:41 pm UTC (link)
Bastion and Girl! Ultron so need to hook up and and have an evil robot love rampage that results in a X-Men/Avengers team up.

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[info]hybrid2
2009-05-27 05:52 pm UTC (link)
I liked that Jameson...where did he go? :-(

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[info]sherkahn
2009-05-27 06:06 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, this was the hard hitting Marvel publisher who inspired reporters. Not just threatened or bribed, but a true newsman. He's got a chip on his shoulder, and an attitude, but with real backbone and integrity behind it. Pompous, yes, because he has to be bigger than life in order to shake cages and get straight answers. In your face and who won't buy the "message" being shoveled from the manure fields to the rest of the masses.

Where is he during all this Dark Reign nonsense?

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(no subject) - [info]psychop_rex, 2009-05-28 03:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]angelophile, 2009-05-28 08:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]psychop_rex, 2009-05-28 03:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]angelophile, 2009-05-28 06:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]psychop_rex, 2009-05-28 08:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bariman1987, 2009-05-28 05:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sherkahn, 2009-05-28 06:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]unknownscribler, 2009-05-29 02:15 am UTC
Memo to NuSpidey writers:
[info]box_in_the_box
2009-05-27 05:55 pm UTC (link)
When SCOTT LOBDELL can outclass your writing, you just need to fucking QUIT.

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Re: Memo to NuSpidey writers: - [info]jlbarnett, 2009-05-27 06:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]box_in_the_box, 2009-05-27 06:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]angelophile, 2009-05-27 06:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]box_in_the_box, 2009-05-27 06:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]angelophile, 2009-05-27 06:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]box_in_the_box, 2009-05-27 06:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]angelophile, 2009-05-27 07:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jlbarnett, 2009-05-27 10:08 pm UTC
Re: Memo to NuSpidey writers: - (Anonymous), 2009-05-27 06:06 pm UTC
Re: Memo to NuSpidey writers: - [info]angelophile, 2009-05-27 06:45 pm UTC
Re: Memo to NuSpidey writers: - [info]suzene, 2009-05-28 01:39 am UTC
Re: Memo to NuSpidey writers: - [info]danielolsen, 2009-05-28 07:23 am UTC

[info]sherkahn
2009-05-27 06:09 pm UTC (link)
The image before Jameson went on his righteous rant before the troops of the Bugle... the image of Last Years Story... was an amazing picture. Spiderman vs. The Hulk. The Sound and the Fury.

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[info]sandoz_iscariot
2009-05-27 06:21 pm UTC (link)
Mmm, that's some good Jonah.

But man, I hate it when they have thought balloons that begin like, "I, Peter Parker, mild-mannered photojournalist..."

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[info]superfan1
2009-05-27 07:48 pm UTC (link)
Oh J. Jonah Jameson..., I like how peter drawn here.

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[info]xdoop
2009-05-27 08:02 pm UTC (link)
To be fair, it's not like JJJ was always written this good before BND came along.

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(no subject) - [info]angelophile, 2009-05-28 08:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]xdoop, 2009-05-28 10:11 am UTC

[info]ar_feiniel_
2009-05-27 08:28 pm UTC (link)
J Jonah Jameson. Sword of Truth.

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[info]neuhallidae
2009-05-27 08:32 pm UTC (link)
Ah, Joe Madureira. Only takes one panel to tell his work.

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(no subject) - [info]kingrockwell, 2009-05-30 02:20 am UTC

[info]randyripoff
2009-05-28 12:12 am UTC (link)
Considering Jonah hired Robbie in the mid-sixties, he's always been down with me...it's just his obsession with Spidey that makes zero sense.

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Deintely - (Anonymous), 2009-05-28 01:07 am UTC

[info]arilou_skiff
2009-05-28 01:17 am UTC (link)
Motto, there are a few stories like this. When Jonah is written correctly he is AWESOME. And the ignoring of this (not just by the BND crew, by just about everyone except occasionally) is one of the saddest parts of Marvel writing IMHO.

There are a few stories that have him going up against the Kingpin. One is called, I think "I cover the Waterfront" where he essentially bluffs Fisk into giving him some information he needs. Brilliant that.

Remember, Jonah is (depending on the sliding timeline) supposed to have made his first big news covering the Civil Rights struggle.

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Go Flat-Top!
[info]proteus_lives
2009-05-28 02:00 am UTC (link)
I have these issues, very awesome.

I would also feel guilty if I didn't share this Simpsons J. Jonah Jameson youtube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LWNOcQ2nf8

LOL!

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[info]colonel_green
2009-05-28 07:56 am UTC (link)
I don't know if I'd call that something specific to BND; JJJ's character has always been very dependent on individual creators' takes. He swings between being an asshole who nevertheless is a committed and serious journalist to just being an asshole for its own sake. It's a consequence, I suppose, of his primary character schtick being an irrational dislike of Spider-Man.

One of my favourite moments with the 'good' JJJ was in the 90s animated show, when it was revealed that he was the secret financier of Peter Parker's defence attorney (when the Kingpin framed him for treason).

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(no subject) - [info]angelophile, 2009-05-28 08:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rabican, 2009-05-28 09:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rabican, 2009-05-28 09:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kirayoshi1, 2009-05-29 10:55 am UTC

[info]rabican
2009-05-28 09:15 am UTC (link)
Thanks for posting this - I'd heard about this storyline, but never actually read it. JJJ's one of my faves.

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[info]silverzeo
2009-05-28 07:12 pm UTC (link)
One truth will prevail...

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[info]kingrockwell
2009-05-30 02:34 am UTC (link)
Thanks for these, I'm a big fan of the guy. Seeing the scans from 595 pissed me off for the same reasons. Jonah isn't a guy who can be bought or scared off, he runs the biggest paper in Manhattan and he knows exactly how much weight that carries.

As a complement to this post, I need to scan the exchange in Daredevil: Born Again where he reminds Ben Urich what it means to be a newspaperman (so much for sleep!). That scene, this scene, and the one from the Stan's old ASM where he talks about his jealousy of Spidey's ability to do good have always been my Jonah.

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[info]filkertom
2009-05-30 08:19 am UTC (link)
Y'know, one day that JJJ will examine himself, and ask himself why the hell he's so full-goose nutso regarding Spider-Man.

And that will be a hell of a story.

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