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volksjager (volksjager) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-05-19 18:00:00

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char: lady cop/liza warner, publisher: dc comics, title: lady cop

Lady Cop scourge of the underworld and swinger parties...

So, after hidding under a bed at a swinger party out hero decides the only way to catch the this killer ( known only by the boots) is to become...LadyCop !

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	icon_uk 2009-05-19 05:30 pm UTC (link)
	So, was she the only survivor of the Drop-Out Blow up as well? The world wants to know! When did this come out? And was it the first actual reference to an STD in comics? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-05-19 06:31 pm UTC (link)
	Whoops, I forgot the cover. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	arilou_skiff 2009-05-20 01:10 am UTC (link)
	Wow. I have no idea what to say. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	galateus 2009-05-19 05:34 pm UTC (link)
	That one cop making the "becomes a lady!" comment never fails to crack me up. Because... What does the other cop say back? Nothing I can imagine could possibly do it justice. Does this mean eople used to refer to every and all STI's as just good old "VD" in ye olden days? That must make diagnosis confusing... (Reply to this) (Thread)

	galateus 2009-05-19 05:35 pm UTC (link)
	(Pretend that I can spell "people" goodly.) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	richardak 2009-05-19 08:06 pm UTC (link)
	As a general rule, people used (and still do use) the acronym VD in precisely the same way that people today are more likely to use the acronyms STD or STI. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	dr_hermes 2009-05-19 08:58 pm UTC (link)
	And back then, there was no HIV, and venereal diseases were relatively less common. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	greenmask 2009-05-19 05:36 pm UTC (link)
	Those are excellent murderer boots. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	sailorlibra 2009-05-19 05:41 pm UTC (link)
	They look like gothic cowboy boots. And that's ~~terrible~~ awesome. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	leikomgwtfbbq 2009-05-19 06:36 pm UTC (link)
	I want to dress as a gothic cowgirl now. That would be the awesomest style ever. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-05-19 06:39 pm UTC (link)
	Then you should see Tilda Swensen in "The limits of control" out in theaters now... (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	superfan1 2009-05-19 10:52 pm UTC (link)
	I love that movie, also want to dress as a gothic cowgirl. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-05-20 06:48 am UTC (link)
	For a big Twin peaks fan ,I was in heaven when I saw it. " How did you get in here ?"... "I used my imagination." (Reply to this) (Parent)

	tavella 2009-05-19 06:10 pm UTC (link)
	You'd think they would provide a route for investigation by the cops, without her having to the sign up for the police academy. There can't be that many custom cowboy boot makers in the country, and you'd think they'd remember making books with black skulls with butterfly antennae on them. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-05-19 06:27 pm UTC (link)
	Yes, that's true. But you'd also think that anyone willing to commission and wear such a pair of boots would command loyalty and silence! I would, anyway. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	volksjager 2009-05-19 06:27 pm UTC (link)
	Actually, I'd want to forget... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	dr_hermes 2009-05-19 08:56 pm UTC (link)
	It's a clue worth following. But in 1970, there was no computer network to search with and a few thousand leather shops in the country to investigate (not to mention the possibility the killer crafted them himself.) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	volksjager 2009-05-19 06:29 pm UTC (link)
	They must have granted the wearer superpowers of some kind. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-05-19 06:35 pm UTC (link)
	They practically are a superpower! (Reply to this) (Parent)

psychop_rex
2009-05-20 03:50 am UTC (link)

Agreed - the 'killer is unidentifiable except for THIS ONE LITTLE THING' trope is a bit overused at times, but those really are memorable boots. I'd certainly recognize them if I saw them again.
Just to make a comparison, there was a movie I saw a while back- it was one of the dumb-ass sequels to 'Highlander', if I remember correctly - that also had a villain with recognizable shoes. How were they recognizable? Well, they had three silver crucifixes - two small, one big - inlaid into the leather. That's pretty distinctive, I guess, but the trouble was just WHERE on the shoes these were located. Not on the front. Not on the side, even. On the HEELS. The back of the heel, just below where the shoe ends and the ankle begins. So every time the bad guy showed up, there would be these DRAMATIC CLOSE-UPS and FAST ZOOMS on the heels of his shoes, showing the crucifixes in loving detail, with ominous WOOOOOO music playing. And during the inevitable meeting between hero and villain where the hero realizes that the villain is a (gasp!) former friend turned enemy, this is accomplished by him getting a split-second glance at the guy's HEELS and then gasping 'You!' Which was made even MORE retarded by the fact that the villain had NOT been wearing those shoes the last time they met, which was hundreds of years ago. Oy yoy yoy, Hollywood - you are a stupid, stupid place...
*Ahem* Anyway. That was the WRONG way way to do it. This is a pretty good example of the right way.

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	greenmask 2009-05-20 10:30 am UTC (link)
	XD My beloved keeps trying to convince me that Highlander is a movie that's really worth re-watching, but the fact that I saw Highlander 2 before I saw the original just denies me the possibility of taking it remotely seriously. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

psychop_rex
2009-05-20 03:27 pm UTC (link)

My initial experience of the Highlander franchise was the spin-off show 'Highlander: the Raven', which I didn't think was too bad at the time. This led to me watching the original, which I also didn't think was too bad - so while you couldn't exactly say that I'm a devoted fan of the series, I have a general appreciation for it. (Then again, I am an extremely forgiving person when it comes to this sort of thing - even the crap-ass sequel I mentioned I found reasonably entertaining; once I'd established, that yes, this WAS a crap-ass sequel, I enjoyed it well enough for what it was. The shoe thing was just over the top stupid, though.)

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	bluefall 2009-05-19 06:26 pm UTC (link)
	Ah, Lady Cop. Also known as reason #347 that Gail Simone is just cooler. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-05-19 06:28 pm UTC (link)
	She aged well, even with Herpes. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	box_in_the_box 2009-05-19 06:31 pm UTC (link)
	The corner of her mouth? Not a dimple. COLD SORE. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	box_in_the_box 2009-05-19 06:28 pm UTC (link)
	HOLY SHIT OBSCURE (Reply to this) (Parent)

	darklorelei 2009-05-19 07:00 pm UTC (link)
	Ok, awesome. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	foxhack 2009-05-19 07:06 pm UTC (link)
	Wait. Ivy? As in The Atom Ivy? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	filbypott 2009-05-20 07:39 am UTC (link)
	Yup. She was a minor recurring character in the late and lamented The All-New Atom. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	espanolbot 2009-05-20 06:36 am UTC (link)
	Where's this from? :) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	bluefall 2009-05-20 12:45 pm UTC (link)
	ALL-NEW ATOM #12, though she first shows up in #6 IIRC. She's not really a meaningful cast member, that little flyer blurb and one page of her directing cops over the phone is all you get, but it's a rather delicious easter egg for those who know the crack that is 1ST ISSUE SPECIAL #4. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	box_in_the_box 2009-05-19 06:30 pm UTC (link)
	How the hell is he TALKING in that last panel? It should read something like MMMHH MH MHH MMHHH MMHMHHMHH MHHH, like Charlie Brow's teachers or some shit. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	mullon 2009-05-19 07:43 pm UTC (link)
	He's clearly talking out of his eyebrow, duh. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	dr_hermes 2009-05-19 08:53 pm UTC (link)
	"Listen, honey, tonight leave the uniform on..." (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-05-19 09:47 pm UTC (link)
	The reads very much like that. She hooks up with 3 guys. It's an odd mash-up of Romance comics and "gritty" crime drama. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	box_in_the_box 2009-05-19 06:34 pm UTC (link)
	That being said, I'm impressed by the (admittedly brief) specifics they offer of police training - the fact that they clearly identify certain hand-to-hand moves that the officers use, and emphasize that guns are for apprehension rather than killing, makes me think that whoever wrote this must have spent at least a few minutes actually TALKING to an IRL cop. (Reply to this)

jlroberson
2009-05-19 06:52 pm UTC (link)

How fucking weird. I just got this like YESTERDAY as part of a set of First Issue Special(which, by the way, has a surprising amount of Kirby).

Mainstream comics should really bring back "tryout" books such as this that used to be around back in the day, that gave new series a shot without the burden of having to do four issues that might lose money and become quarter-bin liner. Except that was the destiny of comics like this too, but because they used it as a way to shed inventory more often than to launch something viable.

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	volksjager 2009-05-19 06:55 pm UTC (link)
	Are any of the other "first issue specials" actually number no.4 ??? Truly, this is amystery for LadyCop to solve LOL. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	jlroberson 2009-05-20 12:54 am UTC (link)
	Yes. By "First Issue Special" I mean the series. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	volksjager 2009-05-19 06:56 pm UTC (link)
	also, I do agree. the big companies need at least one place to try something truly off beat. Throw it against the wall you may be surprised what sticks :) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	dr_hermes 2009-05-19 08:50 pm UTC (link)
	That dialogue has ROBERT KANIGHER written all over it. He meant well, he had a good heart and a feeling for social issues. By today's slightly self-satisfied standards, he might seem primitive. Also, that whole bit of the killer with recognizable boots was swiped brazenly from a crime thriller of that era. I think it was SEE NO EVIL with Mia Farrow. (Reply to this) (Thread)

jlroberson
2009-05-20 01:01 am UTC (link)

It certainly is, and the art is by John Rosenberger and Vince Colletta. We can only guess how much pencil was there before Colletta got out his eraser.

What I find interesting about Kanigher is for someone who did introduce a lot of social concerns into mainstream comics, he rarely seemed to know much about them. But he should at least be given props for trying--in those days anything controversial in comics could harm you, rather than help. At least till Stan Lee managed to get positive publicity out of the Spider-Man drugs story. (which isn't even about illegal drugs, but about the abuse of pills. Though Harry later has a bad acid trip) But Kanigher's brand of liberalism is one peculiar to modern eyes; his attitude about race or gender or the like isn't so much that it doesn't matter, but more along the lines of "it's not their fault they're women/black/etc." But that's probably mostly due to his generation.

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dr_hermes
2009-05-20 06:20 pm UTC (link)

Yes, I think Kanigher was sincere and really cared about people, collectively and individually. It didn't mean that he knew what he was talking about, of course. But he meant well. He also tended to write in slogans and go off on impassioned rants where he beat you over the head for twenty pages with "Drunk driving is bad!" or "American Indians got a raw deal!" But I would prefer that to just another uninspired writer going through the motions without being affected by what he was saying. (Say, 80% of comics.)

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	seanmonster 2009-05-20 05:53 am UTC (link)
	"These shoes are Mr. Silly's shoes, Scott" (Reply to this)

	besamim 2009-05-20 08:53 am UTC (link)
	"This weapon is to arrest--not punish!" "Stop--not kill!" Someone here in Canada needs to remind the taser-happy RCMP about that. (Yes, my icon is, in this context, sadly ironic.) (Reply to this) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-05-20 09:00 am UTC (link)
	Please tell us more ! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	halloweenjack 2009-05-20 09:43 am UTC (link)
	The close-up panel at the end of the first page looks like it needs a thought balloon. I'd put in, "Fuck that commotion--I'ma use it to blow away that fancy-boots motherfucker!" (Reply to this)