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colonel_green ([info]colonel_green) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-04-29 16:15:00

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Entry tags:char: dr. doom/victor von doom, char: green goblin/norman osborn, char: loki, char: moonstone/ms. marvel/karla sofen, char: sub-mariner/namor mckenzie, char: white queen/emma frost, creator: adi granov, creator: brian reed, creator: jonathan hickman, creator: rebekah isaacs, group: dark avengers, publisher: marvel comics

Inherit the Earth

Four scans apiece from Dark Reign: The Cabal, relating to Doctor Doom, and from Ms. Marvel #38, featuring Moonstone.

So, Dark Reign: The Cabal is an anthology with five eight-page stories about various members of the group (everyone except Norman); Emma's is by Matt Fraction, which makes sense; Loki gets Peter Milligan; Namor by Kieron Gillen; and the Hood Rick Remender (who's currently writing him in Punisher).  Doctor Doom's is by Jonathan Hickman, which is useful to look at since he's the next Fantastic Four writer, so you'd expect Doom to be showing up there (indeed, he's said as much).

Doom's is, I guess, supposed to be a fantasy of his.  It begins at the end of Doom and Namor's conversation in Secret Invasion: Dark Reign, and, after Namor asks what happens with Osborn, Doom flashes ahead to one year in the future, where he and Namor and meeting with Osborn again (the Dark Avengers are also present); Osborn notes that Emma, Loki, and the Hood haven't shown up.  In the case of the latter, it's because Doom killed him and stole his magic cape, as well as...



If you're wondering where the Hood got the cosmic cube and why he didn't just use it himself, well...hey look, bunnies!  It's not really important, especially since this is a fantasy, but it's an odd choice of plot devices, since there are any number of other things Hickman could have used here.




Doom is a strong advocate for a woman's proper place:  adorning Doom's throne.



Elsewhere, the first issue of Ms. Marvel focussing on the erstwhile Moonstone (of course, if you've seen the solicits for July, this looks to be pretty temporary); after killing some bank robbers (who themselves killed people) to public applause, she returns to Avengers Tower and is sent by Norman to be the first of the team for a psych evaluation.  The doctor turns out to be an invasive psychic himself, and he starts beating up on her and sifting through her memories to torment her, particularly wondering why she wasn't there to save her mother when she burned to death in an apartment fire, after mom had worked so hard to get her through university.  The doc monologues that he was a fan of Carol, and isn't too hot on her being replaced by a supervillain.




Seriously, dude, just kill her.

But he stupidly doesn't, and back inside her head Moonstone monologues that she hated being such a disappointment to mom, what with the criminality and all...

Oh, and Doc looks like the Hulk here because he used that form to beat her up.




She kills him.

See what I said about just killing her, Doc?  Good effort, though.


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[info]jlbarnett
2009-04-29 10:13 pm UTC (link)
I'm not so sure he'd consider that status.

I mean Doom voluntarily locks himself behind a suit of armor everyday for no real reason. The needs of the body seem pretty minor in his case.

I think all of Doom's fantasies involve Reed dead or humiliated or The world being turned into a utopia based on his ideas and leadership.

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[info]colonel_green
2009-04-29 10:34 pm UTC (link)
Enslaving two incredibly powerful people and turning them into docile supplicants to his throne is definitely status.

Seriously, fans need to stop taking every single minute detail so seriously. Doom is not a robot; he's an incredibly egotistical human. To fantasize about hot chicks for two seconds is not something outside of normal. Yeesh.

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[info]bluefall
2009-04-30 04:12 pm UTC (link)
There's fantasizing about hot chicks, and there's fantasizing about sex slaves. Doom is above that kind of crass sexism. His brand of sexism should be chivalry. Doom is arrogance, not hatred. You want a misogynist bad guy who's into the sexual humiliation of his female foes, you want Red Skull or something. Not Doom, who would consider that kind of thing the mark of a lesser man who couldn't earn voluntary sexual interest, who simply has too much class to treat a woman that way.

Not all bad guys are bad in all ways, or what the hell's the point of having more than one?

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[info]jlbarnett
2009-04-30 07:32 pm UTC (link)
part of the problem is I can see other versions of Doom doing something like that.

Kristoff Vernhard who had Doom's personality stuck in his head, but is still a kid? Sure.

That Doom from MC2 who was raised by the Red Skull? The Nazis saw women as baby factories so it's quite possible.

I consider the real Victor Von Doom a superior character to them, so I don't really like that.

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