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starwolf_oakley (starwolf_oakley) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-04-12 22:47:00

Entry tags:

char: comedian/edward blake, char: nite owl/daniel dreiberg, char: silk spectre/laurie juspeczyk, char: silk spectre/sally jupiter, creator: alan moore, creator: dave gibbons, publisher: dc comics, title: watchmen

WATCHMEN: Perception!
Here's a small selection from WATCHMEN Chapter 2, with a bigger scan and some notes after the cut.

I've noted in other posts that the Comedian is very perceptive. Here he says that the Roche kidnapping drove Rorschach crazy a good five chapters early, and Nite Owl would probably agree. Rorschach would argue the death of Blair Roche didn't drive him crazy, it simply made him Rorschach.

Another interesting point: this is the second time in this chapter that Jon/Dr. Manhattan is called an H-Bomb.

Sally Jupiter says the same thing to Laurie. This is just be a sign that Sally Jupiter and Eddie Blake are from the same generation and have similar opinions about how Jon is used by the government, rather than an early clue Eddie is Laurie's father. But when it comes to WATCHMEN, it's hard to tell what's a clue and what isn't.

Also, Dan has probably fought regular criminals instead of "schmucks in Halloween suits" for years. The rioters aren't criminals but angry people who want their police back, and Dan knows they are blaming him for the police strike. That's what is bothering him, and Eddie probably knows it. Again, Eddie Blake is very perceptive.

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	sandoz_iscariot 2009-04-12 10:38 pm UTC (link)
	I'm...not sure you can really give the Comedian credit for that, since anyone who had known Rorschach at all before the Roche case (Dan especially) would have noticed the extreme shift in his mannerisms and behavior. (Well, maybe not Laurie, since she always found Rorschach creepy.) (Reply to this) (Thread)

	besamim 2009-04-12 11:51 pm UTC (link)
	Laurie was, however, present at the Crimebusters meeting where we see that Rorschach was still sane, in that he spoke in full sentences and without the monotonous growl. Then again, she was (a) only 16 (b) attending somewhat against her will and (c) making googly eyes at Dr. Manhattan, so she may not have remembered what he was like then. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	sandoz_iscariot 2009-04-12 11:59 pm UTC (link)
	She does say that pre-Roche Rorschach "gave [her] the creeps" (she sees him walking away before the Comedian starts talking to her) so while you're probably right, she might have had enough of an impression to think "ew, I don't be around this guy" and didn't think too much of his increase in creepiness. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	besamim 2009-04-13 12:12 am UTC (link)
	Yes, you're right. She specifically mentions his "sneaking away into the bushes," which matches his later behaviour of always taking the shortest, most direct route regardless of obstacles or cleanliness (cf. his walking through the puddle of the Comedian's blood and, later, through rain puddles). (Reply to this) (Parent)

	thediiem 2009-04-13 12:08 pm UTC (link)
	It could also simply be his costume. Talking to someone without a face is very disturbing, far more disturbing than still pictures would indicate, as I learn last Halloween when I dressed as The Question. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	*glee* antabakaij 2009-04-13 01:55 pm UTC (link)
	Much icon love. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	mcity 2009-04-12 11:43 pm UTC (link)
	Ms. Jupiter looks remarkably like a dude. (Reply to this)

	retro_nouveau 2009-04-13 09:14 am UTC (link)
	Heh! I didn't notice before that Sally's Vargas print is signed. (Reply to this)

	kingrockwell 2009-04-13 09:47 am UTC (link)
	Also worth noting on the H-Bomb front, when forced to choose an emblem, Manhattan chose a hydrogen atom. So are the characters calling him an H-Bomb (as opposed to any other name for 'em) because they saw the connection, or because Moore did? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	starwolf_oakley 2009-04-13 03:52 pm UTC (link)
	Hmm. Good question. No one else calls Jon an H-Bomb, as far as I can tell. I think it's a generational thing. Also, Wikipedia says that an "A-bomb" and an "H-bomb" are technically two different things. We might have to ask Moore himself. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	kingrockwell 2009-04-13 10:21 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, I spent a few minutes on Wikipedia making sure whether A-Bombs and H-Bombs were different things so I wouldn't look dumb suggesting that as an alternative, but there's always other colloquial names for nukes (like that one right there). The generational thing is likely, though. (Reply to this) (Parent)