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bluefall ([info]bluefall) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-03-21 15:34:00

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Entry tags:char: wonder woman/diana of themyscira, creator: christopher moeller, group: justice league of america, series: when wondy was awesome, series: world of wondy

When Wondy was Awesome, part 11 (League of One)
A few posts back, it came up in the comments that meaningful guest arcs by Diana in other titles are relatively rare compared to, say, Bruce or Clark, her theoretical equals in DCU importance. By that same token, Wonder Woman one-shots - the minis and hardcovers and self-contained trade-only specials that stand alone outside any given series - are even rarer. In fact, if you want to find them, you've got to be willing to look in places you wouldn't expect.

For example, today's chapter. See, about eight years ago, DC published what was ostensibly a Justice League book; a hundred-odd page special written and painted by Christopher Moeller called JLA: A League of One. It's not really a Justice League story, though. It's a Wonder Woman story, and one of her best.




The story starts out fairly quiet, as J'onn and Diana deal with some Vesuvius trouble and we establish a couple minor plot resources that will be important later.





"Pax defensor" means "defend peace," by the way, which apart from being appropriate to the League in general, is pretty much Amazon culture in two words. Anyway, with southern Italy out of danger, Diana feels she's good for some vacation time, and heads back home for a few days.

While there, she indulges in a sacred personal ritual.





This is just... yes. Exactly this. Diana knows who she is, she knows her own faults and weaknesses and failings, and she owns up to them and accepts them in herself as she accepts them in others. She doesn't posture, she doesn't lie, not to her friends and not to herself. And that second half, that's the true key, that's why the lasso is so Goddamn scary - we do not like to acknowledge that we're human, that we have faults, that we fuck up, that we're petty, nasty, hateful, selfish, prejudiced little shits who thrive on violence and schadenfreude and do the wrong thing for the wrong reasons. So we lie. We refuse to admit to ourselves our darker natures, our self-deceits and failures. But the lasso does not allow that luxury. Being its guardian does not allow that luxury. Diana knows what it means to be human - she knows it better than Clark, who only sees the good in most people, or Bruce, who only sees the bad. She sees both, even in herself, and has no problem reconciling that apparent contradiction, because it's the truth, and that's all there is to it. The terrible strength that takes - that she can do that, carry that burden, is awesome in the most literal sense of the word.

Anyway, the offpanel voice there is Zoe, a naiad. Althea and Zoe have a little back-and-forth about some secret that they're not supposed to tell Diana, or even know in the first place, except they heard anyway because satyrs can't keep secrets...



Diana goes to Delphi and the girls take her underground, to where the Oracle resides, so she can hear the prophecy.





Zoe and Althea beg Diana to quit the League and save her own life, but that's not really Diana's style. She's not entirely sure what to do, offhand, but leaving her friends to their fate is obviously not an option.

Elsewhere - Altdorf, Switzerland to be precise - two gnomes, Emrick and Elmen, are lamenting the impoverished state of their warren. Gnomes are the reason stuff goes missing, see, like when you lose one sock in a pair or can't find the last screw, but around Uri Warren, where Emrick and Elmen live, their nightly haul is apparently limited to bottle openers that nobody wants and car keys that people have duplicates of. If only something *big* could happen to them! Like, how about, I don't know, discovering a sleeping dragon deep in the bottom of their caverns?



This is Drakul Karfang, ancient and evil queen, last of the dragons. The gnomes are stoked, and the whole warren, plus some neighboring Zurich Warren gnomes who thought they were cool when they collected TV remotes, leave off stealing bric-a-brac and start in on jewels and gold. Not a good idea to wake up a dragon without bringing her some nice presents, first.

Elmen has misgivings, thinking that maybe glory isn't worth, um, waking an ancient evil, and all. But he doesn't really have any authority in the warren - even Emrick doesn't listen to him - so the other gnomes all pile together and wake up Karfang anyway.





See? Elmen totally saw that coming. The green fire, by the way, is a transmutation effect - it makes ordinary gnomes into drakunomes, which are crazed, murderous, mostly mindless draconic servants of the dragon who made them (also works on cows and people). Also, it hit Emrick, much to Elmen's dismay.

And with that, back to the League we go, where J'onn is giving the lowdown on current crises that are of League interest.





(Kyle means Lagrange point. Objects in a Lagrange orbit are sometimes called trojans.)



The nice thing about being Diana is that everyone knows you don't lie, so when you do, even if it's really obvious, people just assume you're being honest anyway. Hence, the League figures the thefts are meaningless, and split up to deal with the rest. Bats and Flash head off to the Amazon to deal with a river clog (Bruce glaring weirdly at Diana the whole way), Clark checks the solar flare stuff, and Kyle goes after the asteroid, with J'onn in the Tower co-ordinating. Diana is supposed to help Arthur with the tanker, but she asks to stay behind and talk to J'onn for a moment.



While that's happening, Kyle gets his asteroid stuff taken care of and comes back to the Tower.





That little star pattern she crunched into his mask cracks me up.

After Kyle comes Arthur, who's successfully evacuated the tanker while she was messing around in the Tower. She flies in, pulls it off the rocks before it can spill, and then scoops up Arthur and flies him into a whirlpool.



Zoe thinks this is all a splendid game.

Diana, not so much.



Naturally Drakul is ravaging the countryside by this point. Along with breathing fire and the savage drakunome attacks, she also has some kind of aura of antagonism, turning neighbors against each other as she passes.

Meanwhile, in the Amazon, Flash is dealing with Poison Ivy, who's clogged the entire river with toxic lily pads hyacinths, while Batman gets his detective on and tracks Diana's movements over the past few days. Flash clears the river, then does one final loop to make sure everything's good before he meets back up with Batman. And then he trips over a root.



That little red frog is so cute it kills me.



Agent Orange, for those who don't know, is a very nasty herbicide, which also has unfortunate effects on your average mammal. I do like that Bruce recognizes a dryad when he sees one. He doesn't like magic, but he does keep track of it. Though given the man's very dubious kill standards, this scene is actually kind of troubling - he might actually not be bluffing, here, which is a rather unpleasant thought.



Fight scene!



... man, Diana. I know you're desperate here, and Bats is making you improvise, but "I'm so afraid"? Weak. Even if you were as brilliant a liar as Bruce himself, that one was not going to fly with anyone.







I'm... kind of skeptical that that thing he does with his cape would work. It can't possibly exert greater pressure than, say, Clark trying to push his arms outward, which the lasso would hold against. But we'll let it go for now.



Regardless, of course, Batman didn't have a chance in the end.

So having dealt with everyone but Supes, Diana launches all her friends out into space, and has herself a little Gesthemane moment.



Then she heads out to Australia; five down, one left.





Dude, way to sucker-punch Superman. Note though, she's actually crying a little at this point. Of all of them, Superman is the most trusting, the closest to her, and her very best friend in Man's World. It *kills* her to do this to him.





I love those vultures. (And the symmetry of the "hd hd hd" - Supes did that too after she kicked him, although I had to cut that panel.)



We've had this discussion before, many times in many places, but her saying she couldn't actually beat him isn't accurate. They've been trading victories and breaking even since before this version of Diana existed, and their very first post-Crisis fight, Perez and Byrne went out of their way to establish them as equally matched. I really wouldn't bet the farm on either one of them, frankly. But even if she did win, a full-on combat with Supes would leave her in pretty sorry shape to face a dragon, so her logic here is still fair, even if the dialogue is a bit off.



Little bit of self-deceit there - we've seen this before and will again, Diana's belief that the world can better afford to lose her than it can Clark. That's entirely a projection of her own unwillingness to lose Clark. Apparently the lasso doesn't catch everything.

Speaking of her friendship with Clark, I find the contrast between him and Bruce really interesting here. Batman finds out what's up and starts in on her with orders and threats, graduates immediately to insults, and makes an attempt to outfight her and impose his will; only when he finally gets truly desperate does he admit his concern for her or try to reason with her. Superman's first reaction, on the other hand, is "What's going on", followed by one solid hit to get her off his back, followed by "I don't understand, but let me help." Says a lot about them and the way they relate to her.

Having gotten Clark out of the picture, Diana heads off to Switzerland.



"Hmeh" is the greatest word ever, by the way.

Karfang and Diana yak at each other for a minute, but Diana foolishly gives up her name, and so Karfang is able to cloud her brain with enchantment and out-talk her, all "I know the prophecy too, and you're just as dead as I am, and there's only one of you anyway, you lame-o." This being Diana, though, it doesn't really stick; Diana realizes that Karfang is afraid of her, and gets her name out of one of the drakunomes, breaking the enchantment. Then she flies up and punches Karfang a bit. Of course, that isn't real effective either.



Way to fall for the oldest trick in the book, Karfang.

Diana and the nymphs follow Drakul back to her lair and run into Elmen.



They get attacked by some drakunomes, and Diana ends up tumbling down a big chasm and landing right in Karfang's lap.







... that damn bathing suit. Imagine what a great poster that would make if she were wearing the Diana Rockwell armor, or even the getup from the Medousa fight.





You know, I get why she does this. Karfang is the last of her kind, and a pretty spectacular beast, and taming her would be much better than killing her. But all the same, Diana is not on her A-game today. Because, as you might guess, Karfang is totally lying. Diana takes a couple steps closer and Karfang whacks her a good one, grabs the heart, and flies off.

Of course, fast as dragons may be, Diana is faster.







He manages to save her...



But all is not well.



And Bats is still a dick. (Look how happy he is that she's okay, though. D'aww.)





I think it's really interesting to compare Diana's victory over the League here to what happened with Batman's protocols in the JLA Babel arc. Batman's plans are individual and specific, exploiting the particular weaknesses of each of his friends. They fail, because they fail to take into account the fact that the League is a team, and they can compensate for each other's weaknesses and take care of each other. Diana's plans, on the other hand, rely entirely on the League's greatest strength, on her assumption that her friends will look out for each other. She's able to defeat J'onn and Kyle because they trust her; she gets Clark out of the picture by forcing him to rescue their friends. She's able to launch the League into space in the first place because she knows they'll be okay. He plan succeeds because she sees things in terms of relationships and reactions, rather than individual physical traits. (Well, also, because from a meta perspective, she had to succeed and Ra's had to fail, but that's much less interesting and doesn't say anything about Bruce or Diana).

It's also significant that Diana came up with this entire plan off the top of her head. One of the things that I like about her is that she's such an instinctive fighter and tactician - she can process what's happening, realize what needs to be done, and do it unhesitatingly all in the same instant. She doesn't doubt herself or second-guess. She apologizes to her friends, yes; she's sorry that she has to do this, and sorry that they're hurt, but she's not sorry that she's done it, and she won't pretend otherwise, even to pacify Superman. She knows she's done right by her own principles - knows from no less an authority than the lasso itself - and she doesn't need any other approval than that.

All scans from JLA: League of One.


Next time: An actual Wondy one-shot. Or I should say, rather, the Wondy One-Shot, and the eternal paladin conundrum of Ethics vs Morals, the Law versus the Right, and whether or not to punch your friends in the face for great justice.


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[info]midnightvoyager.livejournal.com
2009-03-21 04:01 pm UTC (link)
Sweet, you got the cut working for feed users! (Not that I don't read it every time anyway...)

Always good to see more Wondy being awesome.

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[info]bluefall
2009-03-21 05:46 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, it looks like the div class tag is the solution. Useful trick, that.

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[info]at_both_ends
2009-03-21 04:20 pm UTC (link)
I don't think I have ever seen this before. The art feels familiar, but I am not sure.
It is so beautiful. Who do you think the photo reference was for Wonder Woman here?
I caught a glimpse of Linda Carter in at least one panel, but the others I am not sure.

This was a great story. I'd love to pick up sometime.

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[info]bluefall
2009-03-21 05:50 pm UTC (link)
Moeller also did the JLA Classified extra "Cold Steel," and a bunch of covers for Shadow of the Bat, and some Star Wars covers for Dark Horse, I believe. One of the cooler things about this story, to me, is that it's one of those things where a guy was allowed to write a story because he's a good artist, and he turned out to be a good writer too. Not always true, in comics.

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[info]majingojira
2009-03-21 05:01 pm UTC (link)
The more of these I read, the more "Diana: Spirit of Truth" becomes clearer and clearer.

Out of curiosity, what was Batman's contingency for Diana?

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[info]aaron_bourque
2009-03-21 05:50 pm UTC (link)
Hallucinate an unbeatable foe, exploiting Diana's pride, which supposedly would not allow her to stop fighting it until her heart gave out.

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(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-03-21 05:54 pm UTC

[info]sherkahn
2009-03-21 05:54 pm UTC (link)
What was Batman's plan for her?

Plant a nanobot in her mind, have the nanobot run through Wonder Woman through illusions of combat that test that warrior's heart that got her through Karfang's poisonous corruption that we just read about. Basically, turning her biggest strength into her biggest weakness - her need to win at all costs.

The nanobot was designed from the Mad Hatter's arsenal of mind-control technology, but of course Bruce had to improve on the model, making it so good it fooled even Wonder Woman. She did not apply the lasso and deduce that her mind was being f'ed with. Her the mental illusion of a combatant had her focused on all levels, concentration, will, physical, that had the strain of the illusion gone on for much longer, Diana (of all people) would have died from exhaustion and a heart attack.

Oh, and the opponent that Diana fought in her mind? Another woman like her, with near identical fighting features and style, and the ability to take hits as good as she got. Which subtly implied that the only person who could take down and be a threat to Wonder Woman IS Wonder Woman.

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[info]aaron_bourque
2009-03-21 05:49 pm UTC (link)
Batman's plans are individual and specific, exploiting the particular weaknesses of each of his friends.

Uh, because they were intended to, "in case one of them went bad." He never made a plan to take out The League, he made plans to take out Superman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, Flash, Green Lantern, Plastic Man, etc. Because he knows the League works best together, and he believes together they can beat anything.

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(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-03-21 05:52 pm UTC
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[info]aaron_bourque
2009-03-21 05:52 pm UTC (link)
Also, Diana vs. Dragon is another classic. I also love the fairy-tale quality a lot of this has, especially in the narration.

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[info]sherkahn
2009-03-21 06:03 pm UTC (link)
About Batman and the magic lasso.

This IS the World Greatest Escape artist as well as the Greatest Detective.

You know he is going to run through several different scenarios where Wonder Woman may have to tie him up....

*waits for the scans_daily crowd to take the bait*

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[info]warpedhand
2009-03-21 06:22 pm UTC (link)
I think you kind of take it out on Batman more than he deserves. His position is that the oracle is essentially worthless and meaningless, and so the course of action she is on is unnecessary and hurtful, not to mention lessening the chances of success. He's not being a dick as much as he is not tolerating the idea that the future is preordained. And look at that, he's right. Is he being abrasive about it? well yeah, but we know that he looks up to Diana, and this sort of thing hurts coming from someone you expect the best of.

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[info]unknownscribler
2009-03-21 06:41 pm UTC (link)
That papal oblesk is... interesting. During the fight with Bruce her smashing it symbolically castrates the League, and while the alphabetical naming obviously has the meta origin in that Diana Smash! moment creating a reference to League of One, in-universe it seems an awfully convenient way for such an intrinsically sexist institution as the RCC of placing the woman after all the men when it comes to thanking them.

Little bit of self-deceit there - we've seen this before and will again, Diana's belief that the world can better afford to lose her than it can Clark. That's entirely a projection of her own unwillingness to lose Clark. Apparently the lasso doesn't catch everything.

Well, ignoring the whole meta aspect of the argument that DC would happily lose Diana over Clark, I can see her point of view. Bruce represents fear, Diana love and Clark hope. Of those three things, hope is by far the hardest to live without.

I love those vultures.

Except we on't actually have vultures in Australia.

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(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-03-21 07:06 pm UTC
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[info]retro_nouveau
2009-03-21 09:17 pm UTC (link)
This is at the top of my want list. I have to repeat that I so love this art and story.

I really wouldn't bet the farm on either one of them, frankly.

I am so in agreement with this. Even without the lasso, the circumstances would greatly determine the outcome, and the last one standing would be in really sorry shape. Now, if Diana had her Holy Avenger +5 and wanted to remove Clark's head for some reason...

Regardless, of course, Batman didn't have a chance in the end.

This time I'm not so sure. I think there's always a small chance with Mister Teamwork. I can, however, wank it that in this case it was a 100% no-win situation. Even if he did trick her so he could get the dart with elephant tranquilizer past her bracers, he would have had to go fight the dragon without her. She was also extremely motivated to not go down without sending Clark on his way first. In any event, Bruce stays up nights thinking about contingencies for no one else more than the most dangerous person on Earth.

I don't know if someone said this before, but Diana taking a knee to talk to the gnome on his level was a nice touch.

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[info]colonel_green
2009-03-21 10:10 pm UTC (link)
She looks rather Demi Moore-ish in parts here.

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[info]jupiterrhode
2009-03-21 10:25 pm UTC (link)
I have my Hiketeia post all ready. Just depends on when you want it posted.

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(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-03-22 12:21 pm UTC

[info]meatwhichdreams
2009-03-21 10:57 pm UTC (link)
God, this art. This art! They could be doing fuckin' anything and I would be happy just boppin' along, looking at the ART. As it is, its story is definitely one of the best Wondy one's I've seen posted here (admittedly, s_d is my only Wondy source!)....it's thoughtful, mythic, epic, and manages to show Wonderwoman taking down the entire league without making any member look like an idiot or making her look like a self-righteous prick. Take-down-your-team stories are notoriously tricky to end with everybody still looking pretty good, and hey, everyone does!

'Cept maybe Batman. He still looks like a total asshole. But then again, if he wasn't, he wouldn't be Bats.

OH MY GOD THIS ART AASDOFAOUUMMMMM ~nom nom nom~

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[info]arrlaari.livejournal.com
2009-03-22 12:47 am UTC (link)
Diana knows what it means to be human - she knows it better than Clark, who only sees the good in most people, or Bruce, who only sees the bad.


I know you know Bruce better than that. He puts up a front like he only sees the bad, but it's a front and everyone knows it. IIRC even Frank Miller couldn't convince himself that Batman would give up on Harvey Dent, to take an extreme example off the top of my head.

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[info]magus_69
2009-03-22 03:35 am UTC (link)
Imagine what a great poster that would make if she were wearing the Diana Rockwell armor, or even the getup from the Medousa fight.

I'd mix and match: the top half of the Diana Rockwell armour and the bottom half of the Medousa fight armour. That would avoid the Ptyrges of Fail.

You know, I wonder if this story was sold as a JLA because editorial didn't think that it would have done so well if it was marketed as a Wonder Woman book. Individual issues of the JLA can (and occasionally should) focus on one character, but not entire one-shots. This is a Wonder Woman story, and that's all there is to it.

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[info]sd_mouser
2009-03-22 10:28 am UTC (link)
I love that she really didn't break a sweat beating everyone else in the League...

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[info]oddpuppets
2009-03-22 11:03 am UTC (link)
I remember reading League of One and initially being disappointed. Because it wasn't, as I thought it would be, a JLA story. It was a Diana story. And being the callow youth that I was, I thought, "Oh brother." I read it still, and liked it - but have to admit that most of that boiled down to "Dragons! Gnomes! Naiads!" I was a sucker for mythology and folk tale. Still am.

I can say safely now that I have learned from those days and will one day hopefully soon own a copy. And, by the way, I have to disagree with you on the whole bathing suit thing. Because that scene...hot.

However, as a Bruce fan, I'm going to step up to the plate.

Speaking of her friendship with Clark, I find the contrast between him and Bruce really interesting here. Batman finds out what's up and starts in on her with orders and threats, graduates immediately to insults, and makes an attempt to outfight her and impose his will; only when he finally gets truly desperate does he admit his concern for her or try to reason with her. Superman's first reaction, on the other hand, is "What's going on", followed by one solid hit to get her off his back, followed by "I don't understand, but let me help." Says a lot about them and the way they relate to her.

Well, hmm. Unpowered individual facing a woman who is clearly out of his league, who he knows to be a figure of truth, and who is LYING. Bruce is a damned good liar. I think he can tell when someone else is lying - especially when it's Diana, to whom lying is anathema. By the way, when she lies in that scene during the round table discussion, does she have on the lasso? I thought that would negate any lying.
Anyway, as you state, Bruce gets his detective on. Suspicious, he hangs back, and watches Diana just kick Wally into unconsciousness. Now, perhaps if he was more like Clark, he'd go, well hey there Diana, that's awfully unkind of you, mind explaining yourself? And she'd go Sure Bruce and kick him into unconsciousness as well. Also, a Clark-esque Batman would be dead on the streets of Gotham within a day, without question.
So he finds this figure of truth, someone he deeply admires, and I think instinctively trusts (hard enough), beating up their comrades. He's by this time figured out that everyone else is out of the game. He's pissed, and he's worried, and...he's BATMAN.
Of COURSE he's going to use demanding tones and harsh words. Half, MORE than half of his effectiveness as a vigilante is his ability to play on the psychology of others. And that's what the entire scene with Diana is. He's trying to use her beliefs and convictions as a tool to manipulate her, to give him a fair fighting chance. Because as we all know, on a one on one basis, Diana will take Bruce any day. Toying with her mind is the only tool he has. And he knows that she's broken up about what she is doing, so he tries to goad her into making a mistake. Which, you will note, she realizes. Clark's approach works because he's damned invulnerable and because he is honest-to-God sweet and warm as butter.
I also happen to think the reason that Bruce even manages to escape the lasso is because he is trying to introduce doubt into her mind. That's if we take the view that the lasso is an extension of herself and her strength - I'm not sure what use the writer has in mind for it, beyond Truth detector.

Basically, I think your characterization of Bruce is off base. He comes into this fight knowing that she's already taking out their comrades and thinking the worst. He can't afford NOT to. Clark comes in as naieve as you can be. Do I think that would necessarily change Clark's approach? No. He's trusting, and nice, and also, did I mention, INVULNERABLE? Mind you, he wouldn't be tricked into getting sucker-kicked by Diana if he'd known that she was knocking out the entire JLA.

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[info]paxm
2009-03-22 12:05 pm UTC (link)
I don't think I've seen this before. I love the art and the story sounds interesting. I shall have to go out and buy a copy of this.

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[info]janegray
2009-03-22 04:56 pm UTC (link)
This was fantastic. I know I've praised the "When Wondy Was Awesome" posts a lot, but I really think this is the best. I love the story, and I don't even know where to start to praise the gorgeous art :DDD

Although, one detail bothers me... The Vesuvius thing... I live in Southern Italy, relatively close to the Vesuvius, and were it to erupt, we don't have the JL in real life. Of course this only bothers me because it strikes very close to home (literally), and not because it's an actual flaw in the story itself, so I can't really criticize it. I guess I should just grow a thicker skin.

But there is one thing I think they shouldn't have glossed over: J'onn is utterly and completely terrified of fire, so being buried alive for hours in a sea of magma should have traumatized him pretty badly. Yet that goes completely unmentioned.

How does the lasso work, exactly? I thought just touching it was enough to force one to tell the truth, yet Diana wraps it around her neck when she wants to be completely honest, and later is able to lie while carrying it.

When Batman says "flatten geneva", what does he mean? The prophecy doesn't mention any flattened country/city/thing.

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[info]sessile29
2009-03-22 06:44 pm UTC (link)
Hee hee hee - I love that Diana gets Clark with a "HEY LOOK OVER THERE". :D

One of the things that I like about her is that she's such an instinctive fighter and tactician -

Out of curiosity, what's your opinion on who's the better tactician - Diana or Bruce?

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(Anonymous)
2009-03-24 02:24 pm UTC (link)
I'm not a fan of Wonder Woman. As a character, she just never worked for me.

But when I read this graphic novel, I was utterly amazed. It got so many things right: the way the art and the story blended, the mythic roots of comic books, the idea that a hero's greatest trait is a willingness to sacrifice themselves for others, the pain intrinsic in doing something that's both ugly and necessary, and intriguing mixture of Diana's strengths and limitations.

I'm not a fan of Wonder Woman -- and I consider this to be one of the greatest comics ever created.

-- Alcimines

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[info]rustedone
2009-04-08 03:23 pm UTC (link)
I always liked Moeller's work in Magic: The Gathering, and I bet he had fun designing Drakul Karfang and the gnomes. And who knew he could write so well, too? Definetly on my to-buy list.

Gail needs to have Althea and Zoe and maybe Elmen reappear as support characters for Diana. She could use a bit more mythology in her life.

Pointless D&D Story: Once upon a time our party was stumbling through some caverns when we pretty much landed in the lap of a grey dragon. The party paladin does a quick detect evil check just to make sure, and comes back with a distinct aura of Chaotic Evil. After a round or two of combat the paladin stands up and calls a truce, seeing as we were there by mistake and no-one had to die. The dragon readily agreed, and the paladin led us in retreat, turning our backs to the dragon. Two microseconds later... ever been hit by acidic sleet? Not fun. Everyone took turns punching the paladin's player for being Lawful Gullible and promptly kicked the dragon's ass anyway. Just reminded me of Diana's lapse in judgement there.

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