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volksjager (volksjager) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-10-08 15:03:00

Current music:

808 state :"Pime function"

Achtung LuftPanzer !!
World war two 1946

The Germans and Japanese invade Panama...

yes, it is a slow day at the studio today.:P

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wizardru
2009-10-09 12:01 pm UTC (link)

Wow, talk about your weird anime variations. I certainly understand the war-porn aspect and I'm not against perky anime girls...but perky anime nazi girls? Having a hard time with that one. Especially if you know anything about the kind of people that hung around with Hitler before, during and after his rise to power (you know...those he didn't have killed).

This strikes me as a 'hey, let's kind of ignore those squishy racial supremacy overtones for our story, 'kay?' deals...which I might not have a problem with if it weren't trying so hard to be based in some semblance of reality.

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	volksjager 2009-10-09 01:46 pm UTC (link)
	Have you read any of the books in the series ? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	wizardru 2009-10-09 01:51 pm UTC (link)
	I have not, which is why I said 'it strikes me as'. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-10-09 02:10 pm UTC (link)
	"it strikes me as" totally uninformed opinion. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

wizardru
2009-10-09 02:43 pm UTC (link)

It totally is and I didn't mean it to sound otherwise. This is my entire exposure to the series, which I've never heard of or seen prior to this. I actually like the weapons and vehicles stuff shown here. And the idea that the war could drag on (I'm assuming some key change occurs that alters events.

The juxtaposition of an anime girl in a leather mini-skirt pictured wearing what is possibly a variant of a Waffen-SS uniform, stating she's a political officer is a bit too jarring for me, personally. Her write-up states her to have the direct support of Heinrich Himmler (you know, the guy who coordinated the camps who Der Spiegel identified as 'the greatest mass murderer of all time'), which kind of poisons me on the idea. (As does reference to Heydrich, head of the Wansee conference, for that matter). Now, if she's supposed to be a villian (and rereading her write-up about protohuman stuff and the Himmler genetics angle, maybe she's supposed to be, then that's different.

I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying that the combination of the architects of the holocaust and anime-girls is squicky, to me.

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	volksjager 2009-10-09 04:34 pm UTC (link)
	It is a Manga book. (Reply to this) (Parent)

psychop_rex
2009-10-09 09:20 pm UTC (link)

It's not so much that aspect that I have a problem with - while the die-hard Nazis who ran the concentration camps and were actively involved in wiping out the non-Aryans and so forth were beyond a doubt horrible people, the Nazi machine was far more far-reaching than that. From what I've read, a lot of Germans were basically unaware of the full extent of Hitler's crimes for most of the war, with others aware and disapproving, but afraid to do anything about it - there were, in fact, a number of trusted, high-ranking German officers who were so appalled at their leader's madness that they conspired to have him assassinated (the recent film 'Valkyrie' was a dramatization of this). Someone who is primarily involved with the actual nuts and bolts of war tactics could quite possibly simply be a patriotic German who is unaware of just what it is she's helping defend. I don't have a problem with THAT - it's just the fact that she's so perky is somewhat bewildering, given that the general stereotype of Nazis IS as the sadistic devil-in-the-flesh type.

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	volksjager 2009-10-09 09:45 pm UTC (link)
	I believe you will find that in any group there are people who buck the stereotype. Hannah Reich was a German test pilot (and SS member) who both looked and acted the perky type (yes she is also a character in one of the books).:) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	psychop_rex 2009-10-09 11:38 pm UTC (link)
	Hannah REICH, eh? Well, that's appropriate. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-10-09 11:46 pm UTC (link)
	Whoops I was miss-spelling it. (she was a real person,if you thought I meant she was fiction):) http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/reitsch.html (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	psychop_rex 2009-10-09 11:53 pm UTC (link)
	Ah, OK. No, I didn't think she was fiction, I just thought it was another example of how the universe occasionally gives people names that are completely appropriate to who they are and what they do. I'd never heard of her before. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-10-10 12:09 am UTC (link)
	There is a film called "crossbow" where she is a character you get to see her test pilot the V3. She flew to Berlin the day before the war ended (in reality) and said her personal goodbye ti Hitler,she had this really weird crush on him. She wrote her biography "the sky is my kingdom". (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

psychop_rex
2009-10-10 12:31 am UTC (link)

Yeah, I looked her up on Wikipedia - an interesting life she led, indeed. It's really kind of amazing how many incredibly talented people were in Germany back then - her, Lenne Reifenstahl, Lotte Reinacher, Fritz Lang, etc., etc. One of the minor tragedies of WW2 is that all these peoples' careers were so thoroughly disrupted - imagine all the amazing art and culture and so forth that could have come out of Germany if Hitler hadn't decided to go into politics. It's really a terrible shame.

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	volksjager 2009-10-10 12:50 am UTC (link)
	Germany's loss was America's gain. Artists went to New York,film makers to Hollywood. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	psychop_rex 2009-10-10 12:54 am UTC (link)
	True enough, and a number of them went on to great things, but imagine if they'd all stayed in one place! THAT would have been something. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-10-10 01:15 am UTC (link)
	I recall an alternate history story where the Hapsburg empire stayed together to Einstein, Heisenberg,and someone else became classmates at the same university. they got into all sorts of trouble figuring out time travel,high-end physics,space travel and other things. Wish I could recall the name o author... (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	psychop_rex 2009-10-10 02:00 am UTC (link)
	Ah, yes, you've mentioned this before. If you DO recall it, tell me, please - it sounds like an interesting concept. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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