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@ 2013-10-09 16:01:00

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Question/discussion: MCU
Lately many multi-fandom games have the term 'MCU' on their cast list and this is a great idea. For those that don't know, MCU stands for Marvel Cinematic Universe. So my question is which movies are considered MCU? All and every movie with Marvel characters? All movies under Marvel studios? Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D?

Right now, as far as I can tell from several cast pages that I've read, the term does not include the X-Men films, Daredevil (2003) and Elektra (2005), Spider-Man (2002) and the two sequels, Fantastic Four (2005) and the sequel. Should they? Are you a mod and do consider it MCU?

I'm assuming that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D will be included in the term since it's Whedon but if someone could confirm this, that would be great. The animated Marvelverse is under Disney but I'm going to assume that no one would consider this MCU, since it's technically MAU (Marvel Animated Universe) if it should be a RP term at all.

If I left anything out, please don't hesitate to point that out.

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stomps
2013-10-09 05:13 am UTC (link)

Not a mod, but MCU doesn't include X-Men etc. because those franchises are owned by other production companies (Fox has X-Men, Columbia has Spider-Man). Scarlet Witch/Quicksilver in Avengers 2 legally can't, as far as I understand it, reference X-Men or mutants or anything (so how they'll get around that is...uh, we'll see, I guess). Those other films you mentioned might be Marvel characters, but they don't exist in the same shared universe--the Fantastic Four do not exist in Tony Stark's New York City, and so on, at least not until rights revert at some point, at which I expect they'll milk that cash cow, haha.

MCU films are Iron Man 1-3, Incredible Hulk (2008, not Ang Lee's Hulk), Thor 1-2, Captain America 1-2, Avengers 1-2, the upcoming Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man. Marvel One-Shots and Agents of SHIELD also qualify (sidenote though that Joss Whedon isn't the showrunner for AoS; he directed and helped write the pilot episode, but the actual showrunners are Jed Whedon and Maurissa Tancharoen). I think you can debate the canonicity of AoS since it's a TV show involving side characters, but it's clearly meant to be part of the same fictional universe.

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	kopi 2013-10-09 06:43 am UTC (link)
	Good points! I am mainly wondering about the labeling in terms of RP as some multi-fandom games include characters from several of the non-MCU films. So far I've seen the mutants grouped into 'X-Men', and yet to see what they will come up with to call the others. Grouping the rest by film seems very messy. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

stomps
2013-10-09 07:47 am UTC (link)

Oh, I see. I still would never call those other films MCU and you won't see Marvel themselves doing so. MCU is a brand/franchise label that encompasses specific films.

afaik there's not a catch-all label to encompass the other Marvel films. I suppose if I were organizing a game, I'd just call them "Miscellaneous Marvel movies" or something. (But I'd also hazard a guess that a majority of players playing those characters would be using 616/comics continuity and not the films....)

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	stomps 2013-10-09 07:49 am UTC (link)
	* for Daredevil etc., anyway. Movie Reboot Spider-Man seems popular enough to warrant its own subheading around IJ, haha. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	kopi 2013-10-09 08:02 pm UTC (link)
	True enough though I have seen the odd ones out every one in awhile. I like to stalk around the cast pages of games that look interesting. I remember there being a number that represents movieverse continuity but I forgot what it was. It's never been used on a cast page so far from what I've seen. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	stomps 2013-10-09 08:14 pm UTC (link)
	MCU is 199999... which is why everyone calls it MCU. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	kopi 2013-10-09 08:18 pm UTC (link)
	Yep. Sounds about right re: what I remember reading somewhere. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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