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D. ([info]heir) wrote in [info]rooms,
@ 2015-08-10 03:09:00

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Entry tags:!dc comics, *journal, *log, barbara gordon, damian wayne, donna carroll, helena wayne, jason todd, selina kyle, stephanie brown

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So much for that.



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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]heir
2015-08-12 07:39 pm UTC (link)
[-tt-] It seems like he left them to allow himself the moral leeway of obedience.

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]recursion
2015-08-12 07:43 pm UTC (link)
I'm no expert, but I think if he wanted them dead, they probably would be. It's not right, by any stretch of the imagination, but those people are still alive.

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]heir
2015-08-12 07:44 pm UTC (link)
No. He wanted them dead, he just wouldn't deal the blow.

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]recursion
2015-08-12 07:47 pm UTC (link)
Which is harder to do? To stay your hand, or to give in? Which is obedience?

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]heir
2015-08-12 07:48 pm UTC (link)
If you mean to mete justice, do it. Do not stay your hand to save yourself the burden of responsibility.

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]recursion
2015-08-12 07:50 pm UTC (link)
Justice isn't the same as murder. No one learns their lesson by being dead.

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]heir
2015-08-12 07:51 pm UTC (link)
Justice isn't meant to teach a lesson. It is mean to get what is deserved.

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]recursion
2015-08-12 07:53 pm UTC (link)
And maybe they didn't deserve to die. It seems like it was public enough to know those people would have gotten attended to.

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]heir
2015-08-12 07:54 pm UTC (link)
I should have known you would be the same. Contextual principles aren't principles at all.

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]recursion
2015-08-12 08:00 pm UTC (link)
I'm not saying what he did was right. I'm not. I don't agree with violence, period. However, I did see how fragile people are, and how quickly they can die. He didn't cross that line for whatever reason.

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]heir
2015-08-12 08:02 pm UTC (link)
No. You cannot depend on others to dispense justice or mercy. Public enough or not, he did just that. He outsourced, which is nothing more than a copout.

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]recursion
2015-08-12 08:06 pm UTC (link)
So you'd rather he just killed them. Okay. It's not going to change what happened. If it were up to you, how should that have resolved?

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]heir
2015-08-12 08:06 pm UTC (link)
No. I wouldn't have killed them.

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]recursion
2015-08-12 08:11 pm UTC (link)
Then what? What would you have done instead? What can be done now?

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]heir
2015-08-12 08:12 pm UTC (link)
[A long pause.] I don't know.

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]recursion
2015-08-12 08:16 pm UTC (link)
You can be upset with him all you want. Do you want him to change? Do you want him to stop? What do you want from him to make it better?

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]heir
2015-08-12 08:17 pm UTC (link)
No one here has any strength.

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]recursion
2015-08-12 08:20 pm UTC (link)
What's your definition of strength?

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]heir
2015-08-12 08:21 pm UTC (link)
The ability to do what must be done, for the sake of the greater good, regardless of the personal consequences.

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]recursion
2015-08-12 08:22 pm UTC (link)
And no one there falls into that category?

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]heir
2015-08-12 08:23 pm UTC (link)
No.

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]recursion
2015-08-12 08:25 pm UTC (link)
Then why are you disappointed?

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]heir
2015-08-12 08:41 pm UTC (link)
[-tt-] Why wouldn't I be?

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]recursion
2015-08-12 08:54 pm UTC (link)
I don't know. You never say anything good about any of them, and then get upset when they don't live up to your standards as if you expected more out of the people that you only ever refer to in the negative.

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Re: Damian/Donna
[info]heir
2015-08-12 08:57 pm UTC (link)
If they weren't so wildly disappointing, I wouldn't have to bother.

And I'm not upset.

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