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Kitty Pryde (Shadowcat) (kitty_has_claws) wrote in marinanova,
@ 2014-06-11 20:44:00

Entry tags:

data, kitty pryde (aoa), nathan harris, spencer reid, spike, ton phanan, tyki mikk

Day 275 - Action/Open
[Around \ Open]
[Kitty will be at the athletic complex running laps and attacking dummies. She'll also be at the DF headquarters taking care of a few things and between other destinations. Approach with caution. She's not in the greatest of moods and the claws are on even if they aren't out yet. So help you if you throw a popper her way.]

[Sector 6 \ Open]
[This used to be her sector—leader of the patrol team that kept an eye on things. She disbanded that team and reorganized the day Reid left. It wasn't a fresh start so much as a priority shift. She does want to get a special team together to explore and analyze sector 6. She tells herself that's why she's heading in there now, but it's not the only reason. She hasn't seen Tyki since the dreams. Not that she knows what she wants to say to him or if she'd even run into him. Better if she doesn't really. Of course, either way she's likely to run into someone or something.]

[Home \ Closed to Reid & Nathan]
[Long day and she didn't come out of it unscathed. There's a couple of shallow slashes on her shoulder and a nasty bruise on her thigh. They're both currently hidden, but there's a blood stain on the jacket where it soaked through. The material is dark so it's not that easy to see.

Even so she stopped to get an assortment of Indian food and a cheesecake. They might not really go together but cheesecake sounded good and she's the one with the cuts.]

Boys? I'm home.

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thirdcriterion
2014-06-24 09:27 pm UTC (link)

[ It's an interesting philosophical topic, one that isn't entirely compatible with the way things work in Data's own reality. Of course, he's open to alternative theories, so he's more intrigued by it than rejecting it outright. Still, that leaves the question of their moral authority to be explored. He frowns thoughtfully. ]

In my reality of origin, an individual's soul is an abstract and theoretical concept, the existence of which cannot conclusively be proven. Many cultures profess belief in one, but that belief is based on faith as opposed to empirical evidence. Even among those cultures, any variance in individual beliefs has a proven historical risk of leading to conflict. It is my understanding that while each reality represented by those present is different in some way, that is not unique to mine alone. With that taken into consideration, there is bound to be a great deal of debate surrounding our planned course of action.

[ He pauses momentarily with an arch of his brow. ]

May I ask what it means to you?

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kitty_has_claws
2014-06-26 03:50 am UTC (link)

I guess I'm from one of the many cultures who believes on one based on faith. But I never exactly saw it as a real thing. Just an idea. The essence of a person. More intangible than I can be.

But here? You can apparently go up to the wardens and buy a soul if you have enough points.

I never really thought about what a soul looks like until now. Never had to wonder how you get it. Jar? Bucket of soul? Does it just float there?

And on top of that, how do you lose it? I mean, I know it's the vampire thing, but what are you when that's gone? Spike is still a person. You can have conversations with him. He can seem sincere. [Shakes her head. She didn't really mean to keep talking like that, but these thoughts have been locked up in her head and he gave her an excuse to get them out there.]

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thirdcriterion
2014-07-01 01:47 am UTC (link)

[ Whether or not she meant to keep talking, Data listens intently to what she has to say. This is, after all, precisely the sort of thing that tends to pique his interest. He gives a small nod as she finishes; it's troubling. Perhaps more troubling to Data that, at least in Spike's reality, souls are verifiably real and yet sentient life can seemingly exist without having one. Those implications are slightly uncomfortable to someone like Data. ]

It is a most troubling question. By all accounts, Spike appears to be sentient, self-aware and self-determining, even while we have been able to conclusively determine that he does not presently possess a soul. If that is the case, then it is becomes unclear what a soul represents. However, based on what we have been led to believe, perhaps his soul is less in line with the traditional belief of being a complete essence of a person and more accurately viewed as a person's moral compass, capacity for empathy, or the component of higher reasoning that subdues animal instinct.

[ Data frowns, slightly. ]

Of course, without the ability to define the soul in the metaphysical context of our own realities, any such theory is purely speculative.

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kitty_has_claws
2014-07-01 11:48 pm UTC (link)

[She leans back, listening thoughtfully. Some part of her registers just how much she needed to have this conversation even though she'd had little inclination to actually start it.]

I've known [a pause as she tries to come up with a number and then abandons the quest] too many people who seemed like their moral compass was missing. I wonder if it doesn't just happen to vampires.

Serial killers? The horsemen? [Sorry, she's not thinking about explaining that one.]

Choice? Chemicals? Hormones? Soul? [A glance to Data.] Programming? What's holding any of us together or back?

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thirdcriterion
2014-07-04 11:26 pm UTC (link)

[ He pauses, and considers. Her mention of programming is essentially an invitation to provide his take on things. ]

With my programming, were even a single subroutine to be removed, or altered, it would have a distinct and measurable effect on my personality and behavior. If a soul is a single aspect, the equivalent of one lone subroutine, of the complex combination of factors that constitute a personality which can potentially develop in any number of directions, then perhaps the comparison is not entirely baseless.

Perhaps the absence of a soul can cause this type of behavior, but it is also likely not the sole factor which can lead to such an alteration in personality.

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kitty_has_claws
2014-07-07 03:25 am UTC (link)

[Nodding. She's good with the subroutine talk. She always had an affinity toward technology. In a different world maybe she would have done more with that than just teach it in a prison. Speaking of a different world.]

Here more than anywhere we can see how much different experiences can alter a personality. [Pausing.] And how much they don't. [Thinking of her double. They aren't so similar, but are they so different?]

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thirdcriterion
2014-07-07 08:28 pm UTC (link)

[ That is an interesting jump she's made, and he's fairly certain that he's following along with her line of thought. ]

Experiences, and the varying choices which we can make, certainly contribute to shape who we become.

Though we are also only privileged to understand our own perceptions and experiences, from our limited, individual perspective. While we may observe what we interpret as differences or similarities in others, we can never be entirely certain of their internal processes, motivations, nor the way in which they perceive those experiences.

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	kitty_has_claws 2014-07-08 01:08 am UTC (link)
	[She looks at him thoughtfully and then smiles a little.] Things got deep in here, didn't they? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	thirdcriterion 2014-07-08 01:12 am UTC (link)
	[ There, his brow furrows and he offers a small, tight smile. ] I believe that is a typical risk when discussing the nature of a soul and the aspects that comprise an individual. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	kitty_has_claws 2014-07-08 01:32 am UTC (link)
	That's probably why people don't use it for small talk at parties. Now I know. [Always knew of course. This is her teasing face.] (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	thirdcriterion 2014-07-08 01:56 am UTC (link)
	[ He looks quite serious (too seriously, really) as he nods. ] It is unfortunate that I did not have that information earlier. [ Yep. The android is teasing back. ] (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

kitty_has_claws
2014-07-08 02:14 am UTC (link)

[It gets a laugh and a much needed further breaking of tension.] I can't tell if you're serious or not, but if you are I hope it comes with a good story.

[She tilts her head, maybe letting her own concerns spill to one side of her brain so she can let the rest think about the man before her.] How are you doing, Data? [She hasn't heard anything from Seven in awhile. It doesn't have to mean anything, but here...you never know until you know.]

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thirdcriterion
2014-07-10 02:23 pm UTC (link)

[ In this particular instance, he's not serious. He could tell her stories about social faux pas that would fill hours, of course, but at the moment... a quirk of his brows and a small smile will have to suffice.

Particularly since he must pause and consider her question. ]

I have been... managing.

[ It's a word he's come to understand as being applicable as he attempts to process and integrate his emotional responses. ]

There have recently been a number of departures among those with whom I am close.

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	kitty_has_claws 2014-07-11 04:29 am UTC (link)
	Those never seem to get easier. [Her last one was the hardest even. He just happened to come back.] Was Seven one of them? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	thirdcriterion 2014-07-13 09:42 pm UTC (link)
	Yes. She was. [ There's really no more that need be said there; the emotion, such a difficult aspect of his processing to bear now, is plain in his quiet affirmation. ] (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	kitty_has_claws 2014-07-14 12:19 am UTC (link)
	I'm sorry. [Maybe she doesn't need to say more either, but she feels like she does. She knows how it felt to lose Reid and there's no one word fit to sum all of that up. Not even a phrase. Maybe one of those epic poems, but she wasn't exactly in the mood to write one while she was going through it. Or ever.] (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

thirdcriterion
2014-07-14 03:18 am UTC (link)

[ He just gives a small nod, a tight frown in place. ]

Thank you.

[ Somehow, it just seems like a sentiment he should express appreciation for. He has no doubt that she understands, as well. But... something more should be said. ]

It would be best that she were returned to her correct place in our timeline. I can only hope that to be the case, rather than her being trapped elsewhere, and that she is safe.

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	kitty_has_claws 2014-07-18 04:22 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah... Well, maybe that's what happened. [She tries to make this sound hopeful, like she believes it's possible. She fails. She's been in the prison a long time and she's seen things. Sure, it was at the other facility, but she has to wonder what it all means.] Whatever happened, we'll figure something out. Get people where they need to be. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	thirdcriterion 2014-07-21 10:49 pm UTC (link)
	I do believe it to be unlikely, but I have observed that likelihood does not necessarily preclude one from hoping. [ Yeah. He's right there, too. ] Unsurprisingly, when I made such an offer, the wardens were not open to assistance in their alleged attempts to repair the dimensional stabilizer. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	kitty_has_claws 2014-07-22 04:42 am UTC (link)
	That might be exactly when you need hope the most. [She nods.] Not surprising they wouldn't want us seeing their tech up close and personal. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	thirdcriterion 2014-07-31 03:30 pm UTC (link)
	No, it is not. In retrospect, I may have been insufficiently respectful of their efforts, as well. [ He purses his lips slightly, and tilts his head. ] Considering they had just 'lost' my best friend, I believe that I showed what could be considered admirable restraint. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	kitty_has_claws 2014-08-01 12:29 am UTC (link)
	I think under the circumstances of being here we're all due a certain lack of respect when it comes to them. [A little pause.] Who was your best friend? [Seven?] (Reply to this) (Parent)

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