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Dr. Spencer Reid ([info]thisiscalm) wrote in [info]marinanova,
@ 2014-02-07 20:32:00

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Entry tags::class, alex karev, artemis crock, dexter morgan, kitty pryde (aoa), nathan harris, piter de vries, sam winchester, sarah williams, spencer reid

257 // criminology class // open to all
[ Another day, another criminology class. Even though this is his eleventh class, Reid is noticeably nervous today. Sensitive subject. Also a potentially fuller class than usual, thanks to the school fair. ]

Today marks the beginning of a series of lectures on mental illnesses and delusions common to serial killers, starting with schizophrenia. Those of you who weren’t around for our neuro-psychology class on day 247 or who need a refresher course are welcome to grab handouts with the relevant information. It’s not necessary, but I recommend that you study up on basic neurology as these classes can get a little technical?

Thank you.


HISTORICAL SERIAL KILLER – Herbert Mullin

Mullin was born in Salinas, California but was raised in Santa Cruz. His father, a World War II veteran, was strict but not abusive. He frequently discussed his heroic war activities and showed his son how to use a gun at an early age. Mullin had numerous friends at school and was voted "Most Likely to Succeed" by his classmates. However, shortly after graduating from high school, one of his best friends was killed in a car accident, and Mullin was devastated. He built a shrine to his deceased friend in his bedroom. Later he expressed fears that he was homosexual, even though he had a longtime girlfriend at the time.

By 1972, Mullin was 25 and had moved back in with his parents in Santa Cruz. By now he was hearing voices in his head that told him an earthquake was imminent, and that only through murder could he save California. Mullin's birthday, April 18, was the anniversary of the 1906 San Francisco earthquake, which he thought was very significant.
Mullin believed that the war in Vietnam had produced enough American deaths to forestall earthquakes as a sort of blood sacrifice to nature, but that with the war winding down so much by late 1972, he would need to start killing people in order to have enough deaths to keep the earthquake away. On October 13, 1972, Mullin beat a homeless man to death with a baseball bat. The man, 55, had been hitchhiking and Mullin struck him down after tricking him into looking at the car engine. Mullin was to claim later that the victim was Jonah from the Bible, and that he had sent Mullin a telepathic message saying, "Pick me up and throw me over the boat. Kill me so that others will be saved." The man's body was found the next day.

The next victim was Mary Guilfoyle, 24, a Cabrillo College student who was running late for an interview. She was picked up by Mullin while hitchhiking. Herbert stabbed her through the chest and the back. He then dissected her body and scattered her remains alongside a hillside road. Only four days later, on a Thursday in November, Mullin claimed his third victim when he went to confess his sins. In a delusional state, he believed the priest, Father Henri Tomei, wanted to volunteer to be his next sacrifice to keep away the earthquakes. He beat, kicked, and stabbed the priest to death. Father Tomei bled to death in the confessional while a parishioner watched Mullin run away. The witness description did not help the police.

[ Wiki ] 

PSYCHOLOGY — Schizophrenia

Schizophrenia is a mental disorder characterized by a breakdown in thinking and poor emotional responses. Common symptoms include delusions, such as the feeling that someone is out to get you; seeing things that are not there; disorganized thinking; a lack of emotion and a lack of motivation. Schizophrenia causes significant social and work problems. Symptoms begin typically in young adulthood and about 0.3–0.7% of people are affected during their lifetime. Diagnosis is based on observed behavior and the person's reported experiences.

Genetics, early environment, psychological and social processes appear to be important contributory factors. Some recreational and prescription drugs appear to cause or worsen symptoms. The many possible combinations of symptoms have triggered debate about whether the diagnosis represents a single disorder or a number of seperate syndromes. Despite the origin of the term from the Greek roots skhizein ("to split") and phrēn ("mind"), schizophrenia does not imply a "split personality", or "multiple personality disorder"—a condition with which it is often confused in public perception. Rather, the term means a "splitting of mental functions", reflecting the presentation of the illness.

An important thing to note — and I really can’t stress this enough — is that although schizophrenia is relatively common among serial killers, the illness itself does not encourage violent or homicidal behaviour. Many schizophrenics also suffer from depression or anxiety disorders, and without proper care it is not uncommon that they self-medicate with drugs or alcohol which in turn can make the condition worsen. Social problems such as long-term unemployment, poverty and homelessness are common and the average life expectancy of people with the disorder is 12 to 15 years less than those without. This is a direct result of increased physical health problems and a higher suicide rate.
It’s the difficulty of the living situation itself, not the disorder that drive these people to kill.

[ Wiki ]


PRACTICAL APPLICATION

[ There is no practical application for this class. Instead he’ll put focus on the Q&A section — questions are especially encouraged this time around. ]

Q&A

[ A Q&A thread can be found here for all your question-based needs! There is also a suggestions box available — just note that your character is dropping a note in the box in the subject header and it will be brought up during the next class! ]



(( The Criminology Class is held in an open lecture format, meaning that there's no ic signup process involved! Feel free to mingle at your leisure — email notifs are off but Reid has a thread HERE if you wish to hit him up. For more information about the setup and purpose of the class, go HERE. The attached links are a full account of the entire lecture so feel free to use them as topics of discussion! ))


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[info]questionofwhen
2014-02-08 11:06 pm UTC (link)
[This is Nathan's first class on criminology. Hello, class.

He sits in back and alternates between scribbling down notes (mostly when the psychology part comes around) and staring into space. He's not about to strike up a conversation with anyone he doesn't already know, but anyone else in attendance should definitely say hello to the not-quite-a-serial-killer.]

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[info]blue_eyed
2014-02-11 12:46 am UTC (link)
[ experienced assassin and torturer here, ready to say hello to the not-quite-a-serial-killer.

actually, nothing quite so bold or friendly as that. for a while, it's more silent scrutiny than anything— a pair of curious, whiteless eyes glancing nathan's way now and again during the lecture, though for the most part he spends time paying attention to teacher— that is, focusing on reid's nervousness, his weakness, his tells.

piter lingers after class, skulking around reid as usual, but as he slithers past nathan's seat, he figures that a little hello might just be in order.
]

My, my— criminology attracts a great many more youths than one would expect. [ not accusatory, but certainly a bit amused. ]

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[info]questionofwhen
2014-02-11 10:48 pm UTC (link)
[Oh my.

Nathan doesn't notice Piter during the lecture. In fact, he studiously avoids looking at anyone, eyes focused on either his notes, Reid, or nothing at all. The kid jumps when he's addressed, as if startled out of a dream.]


Huh? Oh. It's interesting, and Reid gives good lectures.

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[info]blue_eyed
2014-02-17 02:57 am UTC (link)
[ if piter took note of having startled nathan at all— and he did— he doesn't show it. he remains cold and complacent, his face set in a customary neutral mask. ]

That's not untrue. [ a tiny, indulgent smile before he pauses for a moment, interpreting nathan's response. ] It is presumptuous of me, I realize, but I believe I sense familiarity in your manner. Are you well-acquainted with him?

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[info]questionofwhen
2014-02-20 06:54 pm UTC (link)
We're from the same place... or world, or whatever, and he's helping me. I guess we know each other well enough.

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[info]blue_eyed
2014-02-21 02:36 am UTC (link)
Helping you? That's well to know. [ his interest is piqued. keeping an eye on those close to reid has become a fixation of his— it almost makes him feel productive again, as if he still has some kind of defined target, somewhere to focus his energy. ]

Many of your people have come and gone since my arrival— eighty-four days ago— yet he's remained longer than I. Our captors work mysteriously. [ said with a scoff and no small amount of bitterness. ]

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[info]questionofwhen
2014-02-23 12:17 am UTC (link)
Yeah, if he can. I mean, he's a profiler, not a shrink, so... [Nathan shrugs, unaware that he's feeding a fixation.]

They're not my people. I mean, I only met most of them once.

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[info]blue_eyed
2014-02-23 01:43 am UTC (link)
[ almost birdlike, he tilts his head in a sort of half-nod, storing that small bit of information away. a troubled child, he assumes— but how troubled remains to be seen. ]

Ah, but are you not of the same flesh, the same time, the same planet?

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[info]questionofwhen
2014-02-25 08:13 pm UTC (link)
Same planet, different time.

[He doesn't address the flesh bit because it's weird. Nathan shifts, uncomfortable with strangers in general and this one in particular.]

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[info]blue_eyed
2014-03-03 04:32 am UTC (link)
[ although he notes nathan's discomfort, he makes no attempt to acknowledge it or do anything at all to rectify it. making people uncomfortable is kind of a specialty of piter's. it's a really unimpressive talent. ]

Is that so? [ he raises an eyebrow, calculated and inquisitive, waiting for more information. ]

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[info]questionofwhen
2014-03-03 08:47 pm UTC (link)
Uh, yeah. [Under the intense scrutiny, Nathan's shoulders rise and he crosses his arms, physically withdrawing.] I just saw him before I came here, but hadn't seen me for a few years.

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[info]blue_eyed
2014-03-05 03:48 am UTC (link)
Not at all uncommon. [ his mind conjures up unwanted memories of jessica's brief time here and— with a quick, nearly mechanical twitch of lashes over his alien eyes— he pushes them away. useless data, garbage cluttering his mind; he can't stand when it comes to him unbidden.

he pauses in one of his customary ways— hardly a pause at all, merely a second or so to make clear that he's noted nathan's body language— before allowing himself to smirk.
] You need not fear me, boy. [ at least, not at the moment. ]

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[info]questionofwhen
2014-03-05 04:27 am UTC (link)
[Nathan has been here just long enough to realize that, yes, it's not uncommon for people from the same world to be from different times. It still doesn't make sense, but it's not as foreign as it was a couple of days ago.

Piter's words encourage the boy to look directly at him for the first time, his expression openly suspicious.]
Why do you think I'm afraid of you?

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[info]hastohappen
2014-02-24 01:19 am UTC (link)
[ This is also Dexter's first time attending the class, and he sits in back as well, though off to another side. He hasn't been taking notes but he has been listening, studious and silent. When the lecture concludes, he moves over towards the kid. Secret serial killer here is feeling the lack of recent kills acutely... who knows when he'll get snappish? But right now he's keeping up appearances. ]

Interesting topic?

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[info]questionofwhen
2014-02-25 08:19 pm UTC (link)
[Nathan eyes him warily. It's not anything personal, he just doesn't like this interacting with people thing.]

I guess. [Less so, knowing Reid's personal relationship with schizophrenia and wondering if that could be his problem.] I think the killers who aren't obviously psycho are a lot more interesting.

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[info]hastohappen
2014-03-01 09:52 pm UTC (link)
[ Neither does Dexter. This is why you have to learn, kid. ]

Generally, I tend to agree. Of course, no two killers are ever completely alike. [ He's seen a lot. ] They all have the same need, but it's not always borne of the same source.

[ And the ones who are least obviously psycho are making friendly chit-chat. Is a compliment still a compliment when someone doesn't know they're giving it? ]

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[info]questionofwhen
2014-03-02 06:45 pm UTC (link)
What're the usual sources? Like, do you think there're more killers who do what they do because of what happens to them in their lives, or more who're just born with a need? I get that nature and nurture're both important, but I figure one's gotta be stronger than the other.

[Do take it as a compliment.]

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[info]hastohappen
2014-03-03 01:49 am UTC (link)
Hard to say. There isn't exactly a standardized killer census out there, so I can really only speak to the ones I've encountered.

[ One for each blood report, one for each slide. Minus the overlap, of course. ]

Some of them don't have the same need as others - they don't hunger, they just get angry. It's unrefined, but the end product is the same. They're no less a danger. The ones that do have it, that need that drives their actions... some of them couldn't even tell you where it came from.

[ I can't. And more than a few people who found their way to my table couldn't articulate it either. ]

And if that hunger is spurred by something that happened to them... that doesn't mean they weren't born with it, latent before that. Something about a combination of factors - not everyone turns into a serial killer because something bad happened to them.

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[info]questionofwhen
2014-03-03 02:41 am UTC (link)
[He has Nathan's undivided attention. The boy's half a step away from taking notes.]

So, this hunger... have you ever met someone who didn't want it but couldn't make it go away? Whether it was caused by something that happened or something wrong with them or whatever.

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[info]hastohappen
2014-03-05 02:58 am UTC (link)
[ Nathan, don't listen to Dexter. ]

Plenty of people don't want it. Some of them might be able to restrain it, some of them can't and find ways to rationalize it and accept it as part of who they are. Some find other ways to channel it, ways to stave it off or other ways to feed it. But that's something that's different for everyone. As similar as that base need can be, the extent to which each person is able to deal with it always varies.

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[info]questionofwhen
2014-03-05 03:41 am UTC (link)
[But!]

Do you know what it's like? To feel it?

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[info]hastohappen
2014-03-07 03:09 am UTC (link)
[ Interesting question. Dexter furrows his brows. ]

Seems like that would be something of a conflict of interest.

[ I can imagine what he's going through - not that I have to, wanting to know why you are the way that you are, why some things are easy for everyone else when they completely elude you. He wants to know he isn't the only one who's dealing with a Dark Passenger, that someone has some insight and understands what he's struggling with. But I can't tell him who I am. I can't risk letting that information out in this place. I understand, but I'm sorry. I can't let you know that I do.

Of course, he didn't quite say no either. ]

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[info]questionofwhen
2014-03-07 04:55 am UTC (link)
Yeah, but do you?

[He has to press this. So far, Nathan hasn't been able to find anyone else in this prison like him, and this guy knows so much about it that the boy thinks he must feel it, or know enough about it to help him get rid of it, or... something. Maybe he used to be like Nathan and got better.]

Or did you?

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[info]hastohappen
2014-03-19 01:58 am UTC (link)
You think nobody can understand it unless they have it?

[ He's not wrong, but I can't just say it. ]

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[info]questionofwhen
2014-03-19 11:16 pm UTC (link)
I don't think it's some... academic thing that you can get by looking at it.

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