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Ikeda Kiriko | 池田妃凛子 (apathyisboring) wrote in disappear_plot,
@ 2011-08-06 16:55:00

CONTINUITY/PLOT QUESTIONS
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	omgboyskissing 2011-08-07 12:48 am UTC (link)
	Are all 4 of the omgels alive and... normal-ish? Do they remember anything? Everything? Are the other 3 teenager-aged or are they still adults? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	disappear_npc 2011-08-07 02:39 am UTC (link)
	All of them are alive and normal-ish, I think. Only Seiji has any memory left. The other 3 are teenaged. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	omgboyskissing 2011-08-07 12:52 am UTC (link)
	Was Ito-sensei ever the gym teacher? If he wasn't, did the cheer squad ever form? And did the girls' and boys' soccer teams ever start practicing together? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	disappear_npc 2011-08-07 02:39 am UTC (link)
	Ito-sensei was the gym teacher. The cheer squad and coed team formed. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	omgboyskissing 2011-08-07 01:04 am UTC (link)
	Scars and other physical stuff (souvenirs, etc.) - What carries over? Stuff from Paradise in the main timeline? Stuff from the Millennium City timeline? Basically everything that we played through? (Reply to this) (Thread)

disappear_npc
2011-08-07 02:40 am UTC (link)

Scars are left intact, as our souvenirs. Our protagonists are unchanged.

The only stuff that carries over from the Millenium City timeline is stuff that pertains to Shingo and Kei. Their relationship developed over the course of the year as it did in Millenium City. P-users can remember what they did in Millenium City, so it was obviously real for them, but no one else they may have interacted with remember.

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	sakurabamasami 2011-08-07 01:24 am UTC (link)
	What do the NPCs remember? Main timeline? Millennium City timeline? Some strange mix of the two? What about the whole temporary persona power stuff from endgame? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	disappear_npc 2011-08-07 02:41 am UTC (link)
	NPCs remember main timeline only. The most they might have is a dream about a big temporary personatastic power. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	omgboyskissing 2011-08-07 04:12 am UTC (link)
	Whatever happens to Aomori? Did he take a new job elsewhere or something? What are the new school nurse/counselor like? What happens to the Wisteria Field building? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	disappear_npc 2011-08-07 04:14 am UTC (link)
	He went on sick leave for the rest of the year. The school nurse is boring and the school counselor is actually less helpful than Hamasaki - go figure. He does have a lot more useful photocopies. Seiji still works there. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	omgboyskissing 2011-08-07 05:41 am UTC (link)
	Is it just sudden, unexplained sick leave, as far as anyone knows? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	disappear_npc 2011-08-07 08:53 pm UTC (link)
	Yes. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	omgboyskissing 2011-08-07 04:15 am UTC (link)
	Because I've forgotten the specifics of how this went down in the Millennium City timeline: In the absence of Paradise-ing, what happens to Shingo's other lady friend? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	disappear_npc 2011-08-07 04:17 am UTC (link)
	This follows Millenium City timeline - I.E., Shingo hung around and got close with ladyfriend, but never cheated on Yoshi. Shingo came clean and he and ladyfriend went their separate ways - provided Yoshi didn't break up with him then and there, in which case, who knows? (Reply to this) (Parent)

	omgboyskissing 2011-08-07 05:44 am UTC (link)
	This probably came up in plotdungeons, but I've got a mind like a sieve - who threw Aomori in and why? What was his Shadow like? (Do mundanes even have them?) And, most importantly, did he totally have a thing for Ishino or not? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	disappear_npc 2011-08-07 06:24 pm UTC (link)
	All I can say about that is that it made sense at the time. I think everyone has a shadow. He totally did. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	omgboyskissing 2011-08-07 06:25 pm UTC (link)
	Not strictly related to plot or continuity, but what's your post-game headcanon -if any - for the omgels, zombies, and teachers? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	disappear_npc 2011-08-07 06:28 pm UTC (link)
	I wanted to leave it open to interpretation for people - especially Kei, because I don't think I should be able to dictate what "the protagonist" does. The omgels, I think, get another chance to have a life and they use it well, though I think they do have a bit of a shortened lifespan. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	omgboyskissing 2011-08-07 06:35 pm UTC (link)
	Are the omgels all students? What year are they (pre-epilogue)? (Reply to this) (Thread)

disappear_npc
2011-08-07 07:54 pm UTC (link)

I think they're all just graduated, or attending schools other than Nanakamado.

The OMGels present a certain difficulty because they obviously can't just resume the lives they had - all of those people are gone, now. I might go back on what I said earlier because I initially had figured only Seiji survived and remembered - remembering, at least, gives him some room to orient himself and the zombies to hang out with. For the other OMGels... Well, I don't really know.

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	omgboyskissing 2011-08-07 07:52 pm UTC (link)
	TIME PARADOX It's ridiculously minor, but: in the main timeline, Yoshi had been holding on to Shingo's phone. Without all the Paradise business, he probably wouldn't have lost it in the first place. Is it just not with her things anymore once she gets back from endgame-ing? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	disappear_npc 2011-08-07 07:55 pm UTC (link)
	She still has it. Shingo just lost that phone. Main timeline > Paradise Timeline. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	omgboyskissing 2011-08-07 08:06 pm UTC (link)
	Does the team still have access to the Butterfly House, or just the regular Butterfly Room? Is there still a butterfly hanging about? How many entrances/exits are there? Are there still random fodder Shadows hanging around Paradise? (Reply to this) (Thread)

disappear_npc
2011-08-07 08:09 pm UTC (link)

The team still has access to the butterfly... Whatever. It's basically a room of requirement, so I think it isn't quite the house any more after endgame - it adapts to the needs of its occupants.

Is there still a butterfly? I don't get this question.

There are as many as there need to be - see above.

There are, but only P-users can open the door to Paradise, so they aren't a threat to the general public (provided Reizo doesn't start tossing people in next). However, there are still some loose-ends there so that people can organize post-game dungeon things if they so desire.

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	omgboyskissing 2011-08-07 08:10 pm UTC (link)
	In the absence of a string of murders, how lax is dorm security? How frequent are room checks? Does anyone enforce the weekday curfew? Is it fairly easy to sneak opposite-sex guests in and out? (not that it ever seemed that hard in the main timeline, but!) (Reply to this) (Thread)

disappear_npc
2011-08-07 08:12 pm UTC (link)

Lax enough that it isn't a problem for practiced professionals (I guess the D cast could ask Kozue for procedural tips and Reizo to just scare everybody off).

I have no idea.

I'm going to go with no.

There is probably like, a technique that has been handed down generationally about which entrances and exits to use and things like that. It's probably fairly easy if you know the ins and outs.

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	from the peanut gallery 2dbeauty 2011-08-09 05:51 am UTC (link)
	1. What all is Shingo allergic to? And do any of the other plot NPCs have allergies to anything? 2. Is Kei always a bit of an Ill Boy, or did Jun just imagine that? 3. Did Ishino know about Aomori's crush on her in any timeline? How did she feel about him? 4. Jun wants a refresher on what the deal was with the Hana/Hikaru/Ishino trio in the main timeline. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: from the peanut gallery apathyisboring 2011-08-09 11:37 am UTC (link)
	1. Trees! 2. I don't know what you mean? 3. I think she might have been vaguely aware of it. She felt conflicted. 4. There was no deal - Hana is a straight-up liar. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	omgboyskissing 2011-08-14 04:51 pm UTC (link)
	When did the teenager-Omgels initially fail? Like, what year? Why did Seiji reenter reality later/at a different age than the others? (Reply to this)

	omgboyskissing 2011-08-14 04:55 pm UTC (link)
	Do any of the plot NPCs have pets? Siblings? Does Seiji still have Anna-nee? Any Valentine's chocolate exchanged during endgame - retconned out of reality with Millennium City, or filed under "souvenirs carry over"? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	disappear_npc 2011-08-14 09:45 pm UTC (link)
	Valentine's day chocolate carries over. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	omgboyskissing 2011-08-14 09:45 pm UTC (link)
	On being jailed by the Omgels: Did the NPCs get uniforms or something while they were imprisoned? Did they have to wear whatever they were captured in for however-many days/weeks? (Any word on however many days/weeks it was?) Were the Omgels intentionally using the NPCs as bait, or just trying to contain them? And what were they planning to do with Seiji? (Reply to this) (Thread)

disappear_npc
2011-08-14 09:47 pm UTC (link)

They had to wear the same thing but being from JRPGland it didn't really bother them. They only own two outfits per season anyway.

Intentionally baiting, if I understand the question.

They were planning to hold him there the same way they were holding the other 3. If he got killed it would sort of work counter to their endgoal of preserving their lives - even if he did turn on them.

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	omgboyskissing 2011-08-14 09:46 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, right, also: Hamasaki did all of the throwing-people-into-Paradise, right? What's the final tally on who was thrown and who went in by themselves? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	disappear_npc 2011-08-14 09:48 pm UTC (link)
	Insofar as I can remember, yes. Reizo, Toshi, Renju, Keichi went in on their own, if I recall correctly - any time the school was closed or summer vacation was on, someone went in on their own. (Reply to this) (Parent)

GO GO CONTINUITY QUESTIONS

omgboyskissing
2011-10-02 01:32 pm UTC (link)

Where/when does the team end up immediately after the fade to white at the end of the last dungeon? Someplace in Iburi? Daytime or nighttime? Which day of the week? Got an exact date? I-I JUST WANT TO WRITE FIC ABOUT THE NEXT 24 HOURS AND I WASN'T SURE

Did Shingo keep that scar? (CLEARLY THESE ARE THE HARD-HITTING QUESTIONS THAT MATTER)

Got any headcanon on what was up with Kei during the final battle? Just That Protagonist Thing where they run on social link power for a while?

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	Re: GO GO CONTINUITY QUESTIONS apathyisboring 2011-10-02 04:20 pm UTC (link)
	I'm really not sure, I think the wind up back on the schoolgrounds at dusk. Shingo keeps the scar. Kei was on social-link and persona life support - getting sucker punched by an omgel when you've had no time to level up has its disadvantages. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	omgboyskissing 2011-10-02 01:39 pm UTC (link)
	How did Shingo's phone end up at Hikaru's shop? Was Hikaru legit about the whole "OH LOL SORRY I DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS DEAD" thing, or was that a fake out? How long between endgame and the epilogue? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	apathyisboring 2011-10-02 04:20 pm UTC (link)
	IDEFK. Wasn't my decision I think. IDEFK about that either. Probably only a few weeks. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	MORE TIMELINE QUESTIONS ALWAYS omgboyskissing 2011-12-12 03:16 am UTC (link)
	1. So, if the team went Paradising from the Butterfly House during the endgame timeline, would Kei and Shingo's dungeons still be there or? 2. Same as above, but for the epilogue timeline. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: MORE TIMELINE QUESTIONS ALWAYS apathyisboring 2011-12-12 02:49 pm UTC (link)
	Should be. (Reply to this) (Parent)