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sif is asgard's warrior ([info]asgardswarrior) wrote in [info]avengers_net,
@ 2020-05-07 11:16:00

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Entry tags:- network, nebula, sif, steve rogers, t'challa, tony stark, valkyrie, wanda maximoff

Network post to the Avengers (includes Val)
Hello fellow Avengers.

We in New Asgard have been considering what our best option is for dealing with both Loki's capture and the storm caused by Thor's anger in New York. Having seen the news reports, we now understand the scale of the storm and the harm it caused, and the further damage to the Avengers.

We know we often misunderstand how things operate on Midgard and seek advice on how we can repair the damage. We expect to pay compensation for the damages to the city, and wergild for the deaths and injuries. The news reports suggest a rough amount for the damages, though we don't know the costs of wergild under Midgard's laws.

We are also considering what Thor can do to repair the damages he caused with his temper, as well as his punishment under our own laws. He behaved in a manner unbefitting a prince and must deal with the consequences.

We also are direly concerned about Loki's situation, not because we think he has committed no crimes, but because we have worked to rehabilitate him and worry that jailing him will undo the efforts we and he have put toward improving his heart and soul. It is well-known among Asgardians that I have little love for Loki and have often opposed him and even threatened him when he has done wrong. But I have seen improvements in him since his arrival on Midgard. However he is to be punished, we need to ensure that he continues on his forward path lest further ill consequences ensue.

We also know that asking the Avengers for counsel risks the wrath of the Midgardian governments who have named us terrorists. Still, we ask your advice because you are our best hope for resolving this crisis. While Thor and Loki and the Valkyrie and I have acted in the public eye, most of New Asgard is innocent of this quarrel and should not be punished for our deeds and misdeeds. It is our responsibility to protect them.

Last, but not least, it is also important to us to protect Dr Foster, who was only involved in this matter because I called on her to calm Thor when he was enraged. Because she helped to stop the storm and convince Thor to return to New Asgard, she is now branded a terrorist and denied her possessions and her ability to travel to her home country. Perhaps she is even to be made homeless, though she will have a home with us even if Midgard denies her. We ask that even if you cannot help us, you will assist Dr Foster. She is an innocent in this matter and whatever consequences apply to New Asgard sound not fall on her.

Thank you for reading, and for any counsel you may offer. We are further in your debt.



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[info]hexx
2020-05-07 04:23 pm UTC (link)
As someone who has been branded a terrorist before by this country...

I am happy to help. I have some money saved that I can spare, for Jane, if she needs the assist to get back on her feet again. I can also help with negotiations.

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[info]asgardswarrior
2020-05-07 04:31 pm UTC (link)
Thank you, Wanda.

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[info]hexx
2020-05-07 04:36 pm UTC (link)
Of course. I wish I could do more. But I am here even for just - if anyone needs someone to listen. This whole thing is stressful and my doors are open for tea and a place to unwind.

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[info]the_iron_man
2020-05-07 04:55 pm UTC (link)
As long as that money's never touched a bank, you can give it. See my post below.

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[info]hexx
2020-05-07 05:02 pm UTC (link)
I am not talking about ice cream money. I can use my own money to help Jane. She is my friend.

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(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-07 05:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hexx, 2020-05-07 05:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-07 05:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hexx, 2020-05-07 05:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-07 06:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hexx, 2020-05-07 06:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-07 07:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hexx, 2020-05-07 08:03 pm UTC

[info]kingly
2020-05-07 04:25 pm UTC (link)
Wakanda has pledged to help Asgard during this time. We are not concerned with any threats the United States government may make regarding seizure of assets or sanctions. For one, I would like to see them try. Secondly, we have prospered without the influence or aid of colonizers for centuries before - it is they who should be worried about Wakanda sanctioning them.

That said, I offer my aid and any monetary assistance. You need only name the price.

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[info]asgardswarrior
2020-05-07 04:33 pm UTC (link)
Thank you, Your Majesty. The Valkyrie is our Queen Regent at this time and I will tell her of your generous offer. I am sure she will offer her own thanks and seek your wise counsel soon.

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[info]kingly
2020-05-07 04:38 pm UTC (link)
Yes, very well. I look forward to speaking with her soon. I am certain we can work something out.

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[info]the_iron_man
2020-05-07 04:58 pm UTC (link)
You're the best one equipped to do this, but there can be seizure of financial and property assets if it's suspected of funding a terrorist organization. If you have property or outreach centers, or if you're here under a diplomacy clause, see below.

You'll probably want to be doing that from Wakanda to play it safe, your highness.

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[info]kingly
2020-05-07 05:01 pm UTC (link)
If this country wants to continue benefiting from our vibranium caches, or even maintaining access to vibranium at all, they will learn to negotiate.

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(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-07 05:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kingly, 2020-05-07 05:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-07 05:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kingly, 2020-05-07 05:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-07 05:41 pm UTC

[info]angriestqueen
2020-05-07 05:08 pm UTC (link)
I am humbled by your support - it means a lot to hear. I could use some advice, and I would be grateful to speak with you at further length.

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[info]kingly
2020-05-07 05:11 pm UTC (link)
Of course. My place at 30 Warren is open to you, and the building in general is open to any of your people if they need a place to go.

I am here to do what is right. That is what is most important to me.

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(no subject) - [info]angriestqueen, 2020-05-07 05:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kingly, 2020-05-07 05:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]angriestqueen, 2020-05-07 05:36 pm UTC

[info]blueanemone
2020-05-07 04:52 pm UTC (link)
According to my research, terrorism in the United States of America is defined in Title 22, Chapter 38, U.S. Code 2656f as "premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents".

To even use the word 'terrorist' when applied to anyone involved in the recent storm is completely inaccurate and wholly incorrect.

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[info]asgardswarrior
2020-05-07 05:03 pm UTC (link)
I thank you for your support, Lady Nebula. I do not know these laws but I hope those versed in them agree with your reading. There was great harm done, but not by intention, not by Thor and certainly not by anyone else.

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[info]blueanemone
2020-05-07 06:19 pm UTC (link)
I don't know them, either. I merely share what is noted on the government's site and this situation does not qualify as terrorism.

It is my hope that Stark's lawyers will squash these people like the sludge they resemble right now as they throw mud and see what sticks.

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[info]the_iron_man
2020-05-07 06:01 pm UTC (link)
Yeah well, look at it this way, Blue. A space alien comes to town and causes 21 billion dollars of damage and kills 19 people on accident? It kinda becomes a terrorism charge. And that's not pretty to deal with.

You and I aren't labeled as terrorists.

Everyone who got caught on camera and those vids got sold to the Weather Channel? Is.

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[info]blueanemone
2020-05-07 06:22 pm UTC (link)
If I understand the mythology correctly, the Asgardians are not 'space aliens'. They are from a realm adjacent to Terra and are therefore neighbours.

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(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-08 09:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]blueanemone, 2020-05-09 12:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-09 01:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]blueanemone, 2020-05-09 02:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-09 02:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]blueanemone, 2020-05-09 03:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-09 03:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]blueanemone, 2020-05-09 03:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-09 04:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]blueanemone, 2020-05-09 03:02 pm UTC

[info]the_iron_man
2020-05-08 10:37 pm UTC (link)
Section 806 of the Patriot Act amends U.S. forfeiture law to allow authorities to seize all foreign and domestic assets from any group or individual that is caught planning to commit acts of terrorism against the U.S. or U.S. citizens. You can read more about that in a watered down version, here: [link]

Countries harboring or aiding terrorists are often subject to sanctions. Iran's one of them, as an example. So yeah, the government here can do this stuff.

A few years ago, Ross' mindset was not knowing where Thor and Hulk were was like losing track of nuclear weapons. And knowing how our government can get with anything coming from outer space? They'd be happy to let Loki end up in undisclosed limbo after a little gloating to make themselves look good. He's not a citizen of Earth, so that's makes it difficult for laws to protect him. Or Thor. Best a legal team can start with is take statements to clear Thor's name, and Jane can appeal the decision against her.

This would've been easy if a certain cranky ass magician decided to open a portal to Thor's brother.

Guessing from the silence on his end, that his answer is still a big fat NO.

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Hold up on the GoFundMe's
[info]the_iron_man
2020-05-07 04:55 pm UTC (link)
Anybody who has money to throw into this is going to have to be incredibly careful about where they're pulling it from. Ross' goons already showed up at the Tower to deliver legal paperwork. Remember that Ben & Jerry's money everyone's getting along with the merch deal? They're tracking it. That's everything related to anyone that's fought with Thor or helped Thor or just Thor.

That's all Avengers funds. Because Ross is a thorough son of a bitch and this has his fingerprints all over it.

This also includes property. And you're libel to lose it if you stick your toes in this water right now.

The only one equipped to help without suffering too many consequences is Wakanda. But Wakanda has diplomatic or outreach properties here, they're going to get that seized and locked down the minute there's funding thrown at your people. And any diplomats or other high ranking figures will get booted out of the country.

Our "Patriot Act" isn't very patriotic. And the U.S. sanctions a lot of countries into the ground.

I know this is a punch in the gut, but if my lawyers can sue to get the Accords dropped, they can try to file injunctions through the courts, and want some statements about what happened from your end. And, if we can get anyone to actually see Loki, from his end as well. Because the U.S. kind of throws their terrorists into a jail and leaves them there for a long ass time.

I'm trying to do what I can, Sif. I'm guessing due to radio silence that Thor's not in charge. Who's the de facto head honcho for Asgard right now?

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Re: Hold up on the GoFundMe's
[info]blueanemone
2020-05-07 04:57 pm UTC (link)
The government does not have a foot to stand on and they are grasping at thin pieces of plastic.

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[info]the_iron_man
2020-05-07 05:01 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, it's going to be hard to prove in the long run but in the short term, they're cracking down. This is what legal battles are all about.

Those are like fights. Only instead of weapons, they use prisons, money, and paperwork.

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(no subject) - [info]blueanemone, 2020-05-07 05:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-07 05:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]blueanemone, 2020-05-07 06:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-09 03:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]blueanemone, 2020-05-09 03:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-09 06:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]blueanemone, 2020-05-09 06:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-09 07:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]blueanemone, 2020-05-09 08:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-09 10:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]blueanemone, 2020-05-09 10:28 pm UTC
Re: Hold up on the GoFundMe's
[info]asgardswarrior
2020-05-07 05:01 pm UTC (link)
The Valkyrie is Queen Regent at this time, and she has asked me to speak to the Avengers in this matter. She is composing a statement of her own for the Midgardian media.

It is this wisdom and knowledge that we seek. We know nothing of things like the Patriot Act or the law of terrorism.

Thank you for all your help. We do not wish any of the Avengers to be further harmed because of this incident, and so all of this is helpful for us to learn.

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Re: Hold up on the GoFundMe's
[info]blueanemone
2020-05-07 05:06 pm UTC (link)
I am Nebula. I do not know you, but this is an injustice. I don't have resources to offer, but if there is a need, contact me.

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Re: Hold up on the GoFundMe's
[info]the_iron_man
2020-05-07 05:18 pm UTC (link)
Ok, the legal team will want a statement from you both.

If the Doc left that doorway into the Tower from our last party? I'll need all four of you to sneak in and just meet with the lawyers. We'll keep you close that doorway in the commons area, just in case you need to bolt. Tell your side of the story, and they can get the ball rolling on this faster.

T'Challa's the best bet for helping financially right now. Wakanda's in a better position to do that than anyone in the States are.

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- [info]angriestqueen, 2020-05-07 05:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-07 05:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]angriestqueen, 2020-05-07 05:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-07 05:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]angriestqueen, 2020-05-07 05:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-07 05:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]asgardswarrior, 2020-05-07 06:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]asgardswarrior, 2020-05-07 05:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_iron_man, 2020-05-07 06:04 pm UTC

[info]cptsgrogers
2020-05-07 07:14 pm UTC (link)
You have my assistance in any capacity I can offer. I'm not sure with all the legalities in place what that means, but I'm also not the biggest fan of injustice.

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