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nevermore999 (nevermore999) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-09-08 16:42:00

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char: spoiler/robin/batgirl/steph brown, creator: lee garbett, medium: concept art

Lee Garbett's version of Steph's costume
Just so's everyone can see it. This is the costume we'll be seeing in the interiors and (IMO) it looks a lot less like stripey pajamas and is pretty neat. Also, various comments from Garbett about the costume:

Lee's design:

and:

I really like the darker purple and the stripes look more like stretchy...armor...cool stuff...here. I'm also really fond of the boots and the light yellow detail that complements Steph's hair. I also like the riff on the Spoiler legband and it looks a lot less bulky in this design. Apparently those are NOT pouches, according to Garbett:

The leg-strap was requested by DC as a nod to the old SPOILER costume. In fact I've kept it almost identical to the old one but now in Batgirl yellow but more techy than pouches. The same with her Belt. Other artists down the line may draw pouches but I'm going for more old skool 'containers'. Almost like the Batman TV show, I guess.

My only real problem is with the belt. It's so low slung it looks like it would interfere with Steph's kicking and whatnot, and I have no idea what that silver thing on the side is (a staff?) but it looks to make the whole deal even more restrictive.

Garbett has some words on that too, though:

The lower slung belt was inspired by Han Solo and it won't ever be a problem with her
kicking etc etc because I will make sure I draw it not being a problem with her kicking. As it's not real we can have some artistic license and add some cool elements.

So I guess I can live with that. Low slung belts do look cool, I'll admit it.

Overall, I like it. It's really fun looking and therefore very "Steph". I really like that elements of her Spoiler costume were incorporated, that's what they should have done with her Robin costume. When it was described as "sexy" by Miller at the con, I was a little worried the costume would turn out all gratuitous and impractical, but also pretty convinced that Garbett wasn't that kind of artist and I was proven right, thank the comic book gods.

Here's another comment Garbett's made that might be of interest, regarding the color scheme:

I'm not sure on the color scheme Phil's used but yeah, my original design is two tone purple to ref Spoiler's old look.

You can see all these nice tidbits on his blog. It's pretty neat, and Garbett seems to be a great guy, so I encourage you to check it out and give your input!

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	Re: CASS + DC = FAIL xdoop 2009-09-09 12:46 am UTC (link)
	Either way, if the series does good it'll just make Didio think he was right in getting rid of Cass. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: CASS + DC = FAIL nevermore999 2009-09-09 12:56 am UTC (link)
	No it won't. Didio's already proved her doesn't think like that with the Batgirl mini. If the series fails, he'll just think he should have put Babs in the cowl. If the series does good, he'll think Steph is viable. If the series experiences an upswing in sales in the issues Cass appears in and a lot of people ask about Cass- he'll think she's viable too. (Reply to this) (Parent)

Re: CASS + DC = FAIL

pepperspray101
2009-09-09 01:07 am UTC (link)

I don't know how you can be so optimistic, but Cass as Batgirl has been ruined since Beechen got a hold of the character.

THERE IS NO GOING BACK. Too many readers see Cass as a bad character now. Either she's boring, a stereotype or a hypocrite. Only fans of her old series know the truth.

But DC's not going to invest any more time into "fixing" her. The damage has been done. They don't care about her, especially since the current big name writers have no interest in her.

Cass is a toxic character right now, especially as Batgirl. Whatever charm she had when she was Batgirl is gone now. I hope she never goes back to being Batgirl. It would be a step backward for her now. I can only hope that when she does come back she'll be her own hero and will be written according to her initial characterization.

What i want is for DC to find someone who gives a damn and will write her as the wonderful character she used to be...WITHOUT putting her in the Batgirl costume. Because then DC will realize that Cass's success is not solely due to her wearing the bat crest, but due to her being AN AWESOME CHARACTER...a character that is NOT written by Beechen.

It's too late for DC to think they were right about getting rid of Cass. They have thought so since they let Beechen get a hold of her TWICE. That should've clued some of us in that they DON'T care about her character. If they had had faith in Cass's character, they would NOT have let her get changed the way she did by Beechen. But they did.

So really, this new Batgirl series doing good or bad, won't have ANY affect whatsoever on their opinion on Cass. They simply do NOT want Cass anymore.

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	Re: CASS + DC = FAIL xdoop 2009-09-09 01:12 am UTC (link)
	THERE IS NO GOING BACK. Too many readers see Cass as a bad character now. Either she's boring, a stereotype or a hypocrite. Only fans of her old series know the truth. Most people know she's been written OOC OYL. It's not like her series was that long ago. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: CASS + DC = FAIL pepperspray101 2009-09-09 02:30 am UTC (link)
	Except, not many people...(other DCU readers) read her series. O_o It didn't help that after a while Cass stopped making appearances in the Batman titles. (hell, did she even show up once during the Hush stories?) Really, a lot of people don't know that she's out of character in OYL. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: CASS + DC = FAIL scottyquick 2009-09-09 02:44 am UTC (link)
	WHO NEEDS BATGIRL WHEN YOU'VE GOT GOOD OLD HAROLD? (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: CASS + DC = FAIL mxlm 2009-09-09 02:20 am UTC (link)
	So what you're saying is that twenty years from Geoff Johns' successor will make Cass the lynchpin of the DCU? I don't know how I feel about that. :p (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: CASS + DC = FAIL pepperspray101 2009-09-09 02:25 am UTC (link)
	holds up hand Sorry, sorry! Speak non-comic book fan language to me please! Contrary to popular belief, I don't keep track of everything in the DCU, so I'm afraid I don't know what you're referencing. ^^; (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: CASS + DC = FAIL mxlm 2009-09-09 02:32 am UTC (link)
	Hehe. My understanding, which is incomplete as I avoid his work, is that Johns, who is basically DC's main writer at the moment, is taking all the characters he thought were awesome back when he was a kid, resurrecting them/reverting them back to the status quo ante adulthood and then making them, like, the center of the epic mega events such as Blackest Night. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: CASS + DC = FAIL pepperspray101 2009-09-09 06:40 am UTC (link)
	ohhh, in that case...YES, DAMNIT! 20 years from now Cass will be cool again! If not be back and badass if only for one event. Heck, I'll hold Nevermore to it! (Reply to this) (Parent)

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